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Timing a Ford 530 bailer

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Mark R.

06-26-2002 09:59:50




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The book says at the start of the tying cycle when the needles are in the chamber 1/4", the protrusions on the face of the plunger should be 1"-2" past the needles. Are they meaning the triangular wedge shaped protrusions? Or just the face of the plunger? If I put a tape measure over the needle to the face of the plunger it's about 2". To the tips of the protrusions it is almost 4". Now, on the end of the tying cycle, the plunger is compressing the hay in the chamber before the needles are below the bottom of the chamber, the plunger is about 3-4" away from the needles. Any advice or info?? Thanks in advance.
Mark

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Mark R.

06-27-2002 06:27:28




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 Re: Timing a Ford 530 bailer in reply to Mark R., 06-26-2002 09:59:50  
Thanks for your help!



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Jerry D in NC

06-26-2002 10:33:33




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 Re: Timing a Ford 530 bailer in reply to Mark R., 06-26-2002 09:59:50  
Let me get home and get the manual and I will be able to help more then. If Jeff F happens to see this he will be more help than I since he has just completed the timing on his baler earlier this spring and I have not done mine in a while but it will come back to me.

I am one of the working non farming idiots referenced in a post below that has to work a day job to support the farming habits, so if I don't get lost on the way home from work I will respond in more detail tonight.

Unless I am badly mistaken the measurements are to be taken from the points of the protrusions on the compression stroke thus keeping the needles inside the plunger and protecting them from jamming into the hay.

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Jeff F.

06-26-2002 15:08:57




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 Re: Re: Timing a Ford 530 bailer in reply to Jerry D in NC, 06-26-2002 10:33:33  
Trip your knotter, turn the flywheel counter clockwise,(from the front, by hand until the needles are protruding about 5/8" into the chamber. Check to see if the needles are now protected by the plunger. They should be at least 2" behind the protrusions at the front of the plunger. If they are a little more it will not hurt as long as it is not less. The plunger needs to protect the needles from having the hay pushed into them at this point. It is the hay that breaks needles not the plunger. If they are not behind the plunger, unhook the chain that drives the knotter and mechanism. Continue turning the flywheel until the plunger is in the proper position on the compression stroke. Then turn the sprocket at the knotter mechanism counter clockwise until you feel the roller inside engage the pawl that is inside with the needles lifted back into position. (The needles drop down when you unhook the chain) Put the chain back on with the slack out of the section on top that runs from sprocket to sprocket. Put the connecting link backl together and take the slack back out with the idler sprocket. You should be ready to go. Pull the arm that lifts the needles back into position, retrip the knotter, check the position of the plunger as the needles are coming up. If they are not covered by the front of the plunger as they come up you will have to try again. This is the best I can do from memory, I will check my manual when I get home to make sure I did not lead you astray. Good Luck.

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Jerry D in NC

06-26-2002 17:40:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Timing a Ford 530 bailer in reply to Jeff F., 06-26-2002 15:08:57  
Jeff is right on the money. Make sure that the needles are behind the plunger face. Unless something is wrong the plunger will never go far enough forward to break the needles so you want them in that protected slot while they come up to the knotters. Once the bale is tied and they are on the way back down the plunger will go behind them but thay will be out of the way before more hay arrives. Like Jeff said the hay break needles not the plunger. Good luck and let us know if we can be of more help. Jeff is right good with them.

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