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Jay

06-20-2002 10:07:04

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I have been using a MF #39 corn planter to plant about 4 acres of pumpkins. I have always used the corn plates but actually waisted a lot of seed because it chops a lot of them in two or jams up. This year I have decided to purchase proper plates. The problem is they have around 16 or 17 different ones. Most of them are listed by size in 64ths. The largest on being 23/64 x 42/64. I think even this is a little small. Question is they also have a soybean plate, but no sizes on them. Would the soybean plate have a larger cell in it? If anyone has suggestions on plate sizes for pumpkins, please help me out a little. My local dealers seem to be more interested in helping lawn and garden type guys, not farmers.

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john d

06-21-2002 19:34:45

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Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-20-2002 10:07:04

First off, I know NOTHING about the MF planter in question. All my experience with plate planters is IH-related.

There are typically four variables you can play with. First, make sure to check the ratios of the gears, sprockets-chains, or whatever drives the planter plates. There is often a WIDE variation in planting rates through these adjustments. Second, the size of the plate cells will dictate how many seeds will drop at one time. Corn plates tend to catch seeds on edge, bean plates will let them lay flat. Third, the DEPTH of the plate is a factor. We planted sunflowers a few years back with an IH #56 planter using sunflower seed plates with a spacer underneath that made the plate cell thinner. The fourth variable is the number of cells per plate.

Steel plate cells can be closed by brazing them shut. Epoxy MIGHT work on a plastic plate. Metal soybean plates vary widely in terms of cell size. I saw a set once that had cells so large they were merely openings around the plate with no outer edge. The openings were as large as the first joint on my thumb!

Good luck, and post back with whatever solution you find!

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slim

06-20-2002 20:59:05

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Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-20-2002 10:07:04

You might try buying a blank plate and building it to suit your needs. A soybean plate is going to plant your seed too thick. You probably only need six to eight cells per plate for pumpkins.

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Jay

06-21-2002 08:19:51

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Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to slim, 06-20-2002 20:59:05

Thank you for your input. Just that little comment helps a lot. I'll check on a blank plate, but I didn't see one listed. As for building one, I own a tool and die shop, so as long as I can get a blank one to start with, that would be a peice of cake. If not, are the cells in the bean plate around the right size? Maybe if I can't get a blank one, I can get a bean plate and fill the cells that I don't need with a small insert? Thanks for your time.

Jay

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Jhill

06-21-2002 10:06:48

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Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-21-2002 08:19:51

If i had a tool and die shop I would just make some plates. Make a slot to fit one or 2 seeds and maybe 5 slots on the whole plate or two slot that fit one seed close together and 5 sets of 2.

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Jay

06-21-2002 10:59:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Jhill, 06-21-2002 10:06:48

I would if it was worth while. The make-up of the basic plate would take a couple days to mfg. I would much rather have something to start with. The center of the MF plates have a bunch of dogs and angle peices that need to fit into the drive dogs. Making or modifying the cell openings will be easy if I can get something to start with. Thanks for your help though.

Jay

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Leroy

06-22-2002 10:27:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-21-2002 10:59:32

Take any steel plate you can find, weld all the holes shut then you will have that blank plate to start machining and use some seed to match the hole size to, vary the location of the holes acording to if you want the seed drilled or hill droped

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Jay

06-22-2002 12:36:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Leroy, 06-22-2002 10:27:16

I agree with you if my plates were steel and I had extras. But I only have 1 set now for corn, and have to special order to get another set. They aren't listed by product, so cell size is all I have to go by. All of them are too small but the bean plate looks huge in the pictures. I didn't know what to do, order the bean plate and hope it's closer to size, or buy something too small and plan on opening up the cells. Thanks for your help.

Jay

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Leroy

06-22-2002 10:25:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-21-2002 10:59:32

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Jhill

06-21-2002 10:06:40

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Re: Re: Re: Planter plates in reply to Jay, 06-21-2002 08:19:51

If i had a tool and die shop I would just make some plates. Make a slot to fit one or 2 seeds and maybe 5 slots on the whole plate or two slot that fit one seed close together and 5 sets of 2.

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