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Very old IH tedder

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Tom A

06-06-2002 06:50:40




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Bought an old IH tedder at an auction. It was originally horse-drawn and later converted to tractor drawn. It has a bunch of what look like two-prong hay forks out the back that move on an eccentric shaft back-and-forth, up-and-down as you drive the tedder forward. The only adjustment I see is the ability to change how close to the ground the fork prongs are.

An 80+ year-old friend of mine says they had one similar when he was a boy, and he swears it flipped hay really well. I've tried mine out and all it does is stick the forks into the hay and move it very slightly as I drive it forward. It *looks* like it oughta work, but just doesn't move the hay.

I'm wondering if I have it adjusted wrong or what--my friend insists theirs worked great, but can't help me get mine to do anything.

Anybody with experience on these have any suggestions?

thanks!
Tom

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Alvin NE WI

06-06-2002 18:24:03




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 Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A, 06-06-2002 06:50:40  
If you have it hitched to the tractor, than your hitch part will be too close to the ground compared to the horse hitch. When it was pulled by horses the pole had a piece of iron in front that would bend toward the ground where the neck yoke would couple to, there by lowering the kickers down closer to the ground. They did work!!! They were very popular when I was young, till New Idea came with a tedder reverse on their side delivery rakes

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Tom A -- follow-up question

06-07-2002 02:28:52




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 Re: Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Alvin NE WI, 06-06-2002 18:24:03  
I thought that might be the problem, so I raised the drawbar quite a bit. Right now I have the ends of the teeth a 1/2 inch above the ground but still well into the hay.

Should the fork teeth be a little bit *above* the ground like on a modern rake, or are they supposed to dig into the soil a little bit to stretch the springs?

thanks!



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Alvin NE WI

06-07-2002 19:38:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A -- follow-up question, 06-07-2002 02:28:52  
No you do not want the teeth digging into the ground, hard on machinery and makes for a poorer quality feed and a very good chance of kicking up stone into the hay, if you got them. Just close enough to catch the hay. If it wasn't driven down or rained on you can stay higher than a half inch..
When I rake hay I keep the teeth a couple inches above the ground, don't find so many stray stone.



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JIMVA

06-06-2002 14:18:29




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 Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A, 06-06-2002 06:50:40  
Check around on the on the axles around the wheels there might be an little lever or switch that u need to set to make the tedder forks run faster in revolution with the wheels turning, on a ground driven tedder there are the little levers on each wheel hub, u flip theses levers and it causes the tedder forks to run faster, in revolution to the wheels turning, just a thought might help and might not

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smirkey

06-06-2002 11:15:49




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 Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A, 06-06-2002 06:50:40  
i'm probably too young (45) to should have remembered this machine, but i used a tedder like this alot when i was 10 or so. probably this was one of the first farm inplements i was allowed to work on all by myself. it flew apart many times since i'd ted 10 acres or so at a time. (i don't think they were made for long days in a big field. my thought is that maybe your tedder is not "level". when converted to tractor drawn, a drop hitch is necessary to keep the tedder in a level aspect.

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Bob

06-07-2002 08:13:53




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 Re: Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to smirkey, 06-06-2002 11:15:49  
This was a horse drawn machine and the operator rode on the machine. This added weight to keep the wheels from sliding on the ground and thus not turning the cranks fast enough. Just a thought.



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Old Iron

06-06-2002 10:55:34




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 Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A, 06-06-2002 06:50:40  
Tom,

Just a thought but is the hay you are trying to move in a windrow or is it laying flat. Keep in mind that hay back then wasn't cut into a windrow as it is today. What I'm thinking is the hay may be too thick to "kick" it properly or the springs that are attached from the forks to the shaft may be worn out and don't have enough tension anymore.

My 2 bits worth,

Old Iron



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Tom A

06-06-2002 11:52:17




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 Re: Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Old Iron, 06-06-2002 10:55:34  
Actually I tried it while flat...just as mowed by the sicklebar mower. This field is very heavy coarse grass, though, which is why I wanted the tedder because it seems to never dry well.



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howard

06-06-2002 19:16:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Very old IH tedder in reply to Tom A, 06-06-2002 11:52:17  
as i remember the tedder had to be lowered with a lever and if it was too low the teeth would dig in the dirt. the teeth are spring loaded so that when the hit the ground or some other obstruction they will fold back. the tedder is a slow speed machine and will thow the hay up in the air several feet sometimes landing back on the machine especialy on a windy day; winds up on the cranks, makes a big mess, cut it off with your pocket knife.

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