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Would a subsoiler work?

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Jim.UT

06-04-2002 15:21:43

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I need to put in a sprinkling system for my 1/2 lawn or find a new place to live (says the wife). Would a subsoiler work for digging trenches for the pipe? I realize it may make a mess of the lawn in the short-term, but that stuff grows back. Last time I put in a sprinkling system I rented a trencher and it took a long time ($$). I already have a tractor. I know I can get a King Kutter subsoiler for $150 new. If I were somewhat assured it would work, I could start checking the sales and auctions for a deal on a used one so I'd be ready to start this project this fall or next spring. Thanks.

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06-05-2002 01:37:36

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

A subsoiler will work great one suggestion which deviates a little from the other responses is to go to a muffler shop and have a pipe made that conform the the subsoiler shank. Have them flare the top end as much as they possibly can and shape the bottom to lay sort of in the bottom of the trench also try to avoid any real sharp bends. Attach this pipe to the subsoiler as you see fit. Dig your two holes and lay the tube out along the intended route. Thread the tube into the pipe you had made drop subsoiler in the hole and go to town. You will have to have someone hold the tube at the start but this way you don't stretch the tube near as much.

Makes me glad I haven't gotten married yet at 35 I have enough trouble getting my own projects done without any honeydo's (just kidding).

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JMS/MN

06-04-2002 21:15:47

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

Another option-I have a skidloader that I cut a hole in the front of the bucket, use it to back wagons into shed, etc. I put a chisel plow shank on it- bolted loosely into the same hole. Back up, drop the bucket, and cut a trench. Works great, may take multiple passes, depending how deep you need to go. DO NOT GO FORWARD WITH THE SHANK IN THE GROUND- THEY BREAK!!

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teadave

06-04-2002 18:02:12

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

yes a subsoiler will work!(only with flexible poly)
i have buried lots of pipe and electrical cable with mine. here's how i did it:
welded a loop or 3/8" round stock bent in a u shape as close to the bottom of the shank as possible
there is a piece that attaches to this to hook your pipe or wire to, that i got from my cable tv guy(he said it was worn out and would drop the cable)
it has a rubber bushing inside and a compression nut to clamp on the pipe.
i dig a hole(by hand) at the starting and ending points of each run. position the subsoiler over the hole with the pipe attached, drop and go to the next hole. thats it!
some times,the subsoiler won't go deep enough with one pass so i will make a pass empty first, then hook to the pipe for the second.

you wont believe just how long of a run you can put in with a small tractor(mine's a ferguson tea20) a neighbour asked for my help and tractor to put a 1" black poly pipe in. he thought the single furrow plow would work best to open a trench first, then lay pipe in and cover with back blade. i told him to dig the holes at each end a foot deep and call when he was ready. hooked to pipe, dropped subsoiler and proceeded to drive 350' around corners and all. he just made sure the pipe went down in the first hole and didn't ride up to the surface(it helped that we unrolled the pipe first). thats it! it probably took less time to lay that pipe than to type this! be sure you check your ground first, as rocks will mess up your day. if you do have lots of rocks, make sure you run the subsoiler first to get the depth you want & then hook up to your pipe.

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Pete

06-04-2002 17:31:57

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

Jim....I like the idea about looking for a subsoiler and maybe doing the job next year. Heck,if you plan this right you could probably delay it even more!!
OK,OK being serious now...Are you going to lay down rigid pipe or flexable hosing? I don't think it will work with pipe, but with hosing and a second person,feeding it in as you go along,it should do the job unless you have to go down pretty deep.

Pete

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Pete

06-04-2002 17:27:05

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

Jim....I like the idea about looking for a subsoiler and maybe doing the job next year. If you plan this right you could probably delay it even more!!
OK,OK being serious now...Are you going to lay down rigid pipe or flexable hosing? I don't think it will work with pipe, but with hosing and a second person,feeding it in as you go along,it should do the job unless you have to go down pretty deep.

Pete

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correction.....Jim.UT

06-04-2002 15:22:28

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Re: Would a subsoiler work? in reply to Jim.UT, 06-04-2002 15:21:43

I meant to say 1/2 acre lawn, not 1/2 lawn. thanks.

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