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Question fo JWC

Greasing Disc

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MATT (BC)

05-09-2002 08:56:30




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Read your reply to a recent posting with regarding to 'How Much Grease for Disc'

I also have by purchasing an older type pull disc and have been wondering how much to grease or if to grease the bearing at all. I haven't used it yet, but there doesn't seem to be any old grease visible at the bearings, although there are grease nibbles there. Now I recall from reading a past posting where several had mentioned not to grease the bearings on older disc harrows. The reason stated was the older bearing design (not like the newer ones) were lot more sloppy and the grease will pickup dirt and grit which will wear the bearings out more quickly than if left ungreased.

I tend to feel that if one greases the bearings regularly then that's the best approach, but it one only uses the disc ones in a blue moon on a small area then maybe it best to leave the bearing ungreased.

Who's right????? Matt

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Leroy

05-12-2002 19:11:36




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 Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to MATT (BC), 05-09-2002 08:56:30  
Grease morning, After Noon, Evening if dooing a lot



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tim[in]

05-11-2002 17:37:18




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 Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to MATT (BC), 05-09-2002 08:56:30  
yeh i believe the post said to soak the wood bearings in heavy oil instead of greasing them. plus the type of soil you have will probably have some effect. i imagine dry sandy soils or just really dry soil will grind worse than moist.



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Hal

05-09-2002 17:27:12




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 Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to MATT (BC), 05-09-2002 08:56:30  
What I have found is that if you don't grease them they will begin to make noise, and if you put your hand on the bearing caps they will get very warm, which IMO is not a good thing. I grease mine every 3-4 hours of use.



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JWC

05-09-2002 13:18:36




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 Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to MATT (BC), 05-09-2002 08:56:30  
We had two disks with the old style bearings when I was growing up. I still have the 1964 Ford 3-pt disk. We greased it once a day when it was in active use and the original bearings are still tight. We also had a 1940s IH drag disk that was used as the main disk with an H farmall until 1964. It was greased daily and was still tight when sold to a neighbor in the mid seventies (with original bearings). Pick up on the frame and watch to see if there is much movement in the bearing housing. If it is still a good fit I would keep it greased. If there is an excessive amount of slack it may not make much difference. I did not know of many full time farmers that ever took a disk back to a dealer to replace a pan or bearings. Unless you are going to do many acres it is unlikely you will need to grease it over 4 or 5 times a year. We need to keep it in perspective that 40 years ago small farmers might work 40 to 80 acres with a six or seven foot disk and disk the ground 2 or 3 times prior to planting. Today many of these small disks old or new may not see 20 acres of use in a year compared to 150 to 250 acres per year in the fifties or sixties. Back to the original post unless the boxing and bearing housing are almost worn through you will probably not wear it out in the next ten years, however it will pull more easily when greased. Good Luck!

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Ultradog MN

05-09-2002 09:34:43




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 Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to MATT (BC), 05-09-2002 08:56:30  
Matt,
One of our most respected members on the Ford N board (Zane) used to work at a tractor dealer. He was the one who got to change disc bearings when they came in.
More than once he has stated that the farmers who greased their disc bearings ended up replacing them a lot more frequently than those farmers who never greased theirs.
This is for the older box type bearings with cast iron or wooden bushings. Doesn't sound quite kosher I know but I trust this man enough that I'm not going to grease mine anymore.
The newer ball or roller bearings are pretty well sealed so I think I would grease them.

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MATT (BC)

05-10-2002 00:15:31




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 Re: Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to Ultradog MN, 05-09-2002 09:34:43  
Thanks Ultradog for mentioning Zane. It was his posting that I recall now in which he mentioned not the grease the bearing. So it was the older box type bearings he was referring to. Your right doesn't sound kosher. The disc I acquired is considerably old and the shaft is quite sloopy in the housing. There's grease nipples at each bearing but I don't know whether their the box type with castiron or wooden bushings. I'm not sure how to determine whether they are.

I only have about 3 acres to disc. I'll try out the disc and if the noise bothers the neighbours then I'll grease them.

Thanks all for the response. Matt

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MATT (BC)

05-10-2002 00:11:55




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 Re: Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to Ultradog MN, 05-09-2002 09:34:43  
Thanks Ultradog for mentioning Zane. It was his posting that I recall now in which he mentioned not the grease the bearing. So it was the older box type bearings he was referring to. Your right doesn't sound kosher. The disc I acquired is considerably old and the shaft is quite sloopy in the housing. There's grease nipples at each bearing but I don't know whether their the box type with castiron or wooden bushings. I'm not sure how to determine whether they are.

I only have about 3 acres to disc. I'll try out the disc and if the noise bothers the neighbours then I'll grease them.

Thanks all for the response. Matt

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MATT (BC)

05-10-2002 00:10:00




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 Re: Re: Question fo JWC - Greasing Disc in reply to Ultradog MN, 05-09-2002 09:34:43  
Thanks Ultradog for mentioning Zane. It was his posting that I recall now in which he mentioned not the grease the bearing. So it was the older box type bearings he was referring to. Your right doesn't sound kosher. The disc I acquired is considerably old and the shaft is quite sloopy in the housing. There's grease nipples at each bearing but I don't know whether their the box type with castiron or wooden bushings. I'm not sure how to determine whether they are.

I only have about 3 acres to disc. I'll try out the disc and if the noise bothers the neighbours then I'll grease them.

Thanks all for the response. Matt

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