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Leveling and laying off rows....

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Cary

04-05-2002 06:35:05




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Ok, need some experience from the veterans here. I have always had a small garden spot..about 20 x 20 and have never had any trouble having good soil, straight rows, etc. Since moving to my new place earlier this year I'm expanding my gardening activities and my new garden is about 150x75. My problem is being able to figure out how to level and lay off straight rows in this large space w/ my tractor..a Ford 860. I have a 5ft disk and have access to 2 bottom plow. I've disked, plowed, disked again and then drug a gang of 4 2x10's nailed together over it to smooth a bit...but how in the world do you lay off straight rows?? And get it SMOOOOTH? Sorry for the long post...please help this new guy!

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RMD

04-05-2002 14:46:41




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 Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 06:35:05  
Leveling the field with a spring tooth or spike tooth harrow used to be a common practice between disking and planting.



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Butch (OH)

04-05-2002 11:44:43




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 Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 06:35:05  
Here is a trick that was taught to me by my father many years ago when straight plowing and corn rows was a thing of pride. You can use a cultivator shank as was suggested to mark your row. Place the tractor at the row starting point and step off the distance to the center of the hood from the edge, walk to the other end and place a stick with a flag of some sort attached at the same distance from the edge. Get on the tractor, concentrate on the flag and drive to it. Don't be looking just over the end of the hood or gaulking at the job you are doing behind. When you get to the flag, stop look around and be amazed by the straight rows you just marked. Anyone can start a headland plowing or plant rows that are very straight by doing this.

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bbott

04-05-2002 19:17:51




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 Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Butch (OH), 04-05-2002 11:44:43  
I do it the same way... and I duct tape a stick to the front of the tractor for a "gunsight". I line up a point on the far side of the field and keep it 'in my sights'.

When you are working in loose soil, you'll find that the tractor is always slightly adrift almost like a boat in the water.

You'll be amazed at how little side slope is needed to make the tractor lead off to one side or the other. Also one wheel in softer soil than the other can produce interesting results.

For laying out rows I'll c-clamp a bar with a couple cultivator shares set at 36" or 42" to the back gate of the 5' rototiller... makes a nice line to plant in. I think you could rig up a drag bar behind a harrow the same way.

For a garden your size consider getting one of those earthway seeders.. all-aluminum jobs with various seed disks. Sets the seeds to depth, covers the furrow and has it's own guide marker.

It works fine for most seeds and saves hours and hours of labor. If you get one, don't fill the hopper more than about 2/3 full. Works better that way.

What vegetables/varieties are you planting ?
Might be interesting to compare notes.

I have 1,500 onions waiting to be put in tomorrow...if it doesn't rain tonight.

-- bbott

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paul

04-05-2002 14:03:23




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 Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Butch (OH), 04-05-2002 11:44:43  
Yup, that's the trick. On some fields that are 1300 feet plus, with hills, it gets to be a challenge, but you find a telphone pole, tree, fencepost, etc. & aim for it. Like you say, only focus on the object in the distance. And when you're there, things behind you will be straight!

--->Paul



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Mark

04-05-2002 10:22:23




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 Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 06:35:05  
Cary,

For planting straight rows in a garden, a string tied to stakes at the end works great. Are you planting by hand, making the furrow with a hoe?

Mark



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Cary

04-05-2002 10:24:37




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 Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Mark, 04-05-2002 10:22:23  
Thanks Mark...I could lay off w/ a hoe but was wondering if anyone used their tractor to drag a cultivator thru or something to lay off the rows?



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Jerry S

04-05-2002 13:56:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 10:24:37  
My grandfather started this 50 years ago. Took his B and the rear gangs to the cultivator to make the rows so we could cultivate the big garden with the tractor. The rear gangs go right where the tires were.



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Tom A

04-05-2002 11:10:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 10:24:37  
Cary:

For what it's worth, I use a middlebuster on my 8N to lay off rows. My garden is long and skinny like yours, about 50' x 250' so it may work for you, too.

After plowing and disking in the fall, in the spring the middlebuster digs a nice furrow about 10" wide with loose soil on either side of it. Then depending on what I'm planting, I either use a hand hoe to push the loose soil back in the furrow and plant seeds with a hand push-planter, or with plants or something like potato cuttings I put the plant in and push the soil in afterward.

Works pretty well and I space the rows a tractor-width apart, which gives me room to walk down the rows where the tires ran to tend, harvest, weed or whatever.

Tom

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Cary

04-05-2002 11:55:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Tom A, 04-05-2002 11:10:16  
Thanks Guys...good info and exactly the info I needed. I don't have a cultivator but I do have a middlebuster plow. I'll incorporate these ideas into my garden area!



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Cary

04-05-2002 11:52:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Tom A, 04-05-2002 11:10:16  
Thanks Guys...good info and exactly the info I needed. I don't have a cultivator but I do have a middlebuster plow. I'll incorporate these ideas into my garden area!



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Jerry S

04-05-2002 11:05:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 10:24:37  
My grandfather started this 50 years ago. Took his B and the rear gangs to the cultivator to make the rows so we could cultivate the big garden with the tractor. The rear gangs go right where the tires were.



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Jerry S

04-05-2002 11:00:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Leveling and laying off rows.... in reply to Cary, 04-05-2002 10:24:37  
My grandfather started this 50 years ago. Took his B and the rear gangs to the cultivator to make the rows so we could cultivate the big garden with the tractor. The rear gangs go right where the tires were.



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