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gy3020

04-03-2002 19:13:50




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Looking for any information on how good a #48 Deere loader is. Not too sure about one cylinder on the bucket? Would rather have 2 but I don't think it would be much trouble to weld on some brackets and add 2 new cylinders. Anyone know of one in North Central Texas around Sherman they would want to get rid of? Would rather have a 148 but hey if the price is right, you know the saying.




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JMS/MN

04-05-2002 22:10:04




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 Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to gy3020, 04-03-2002 19:13:50  
If it mounts like a 148 on a 3020 (hangs on the engine side frame), get ready for broken engine mounting bolts. When those bolts strip and break they can be drilled oversize only once, beyond that you need a new engine block just to get new holes. Also that 2x2 piece going forward to the front mounting bracket is likely going to crack or break. Most that I've seen have been welded and beefed up. I made additional frame for mine so the stress goes back to the rear axle, using 4 inch channel, with the open side filled in with 1/4 by 4 flat stock. It clamps under the rear axle, and goes forward to the factory frame at the middle of the tractor. Also provides a handy place to step up on the tractor. Had the loader for over twenty years, and had no problems after I made the stronger frame. Mine has only the 7foot snow bucket, so a full load of manure is quite heavy.

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gy3020

04-06-2002 07:45:39




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 Re: Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to JMS/MN, 04-05-2002 22:10:04  
Thanks for the info! What would cause the engine mounting bolts to do that? The extra bracing to the rear axle is a good point as well! I have not been doing much looking for a loader yet but am in the near future.



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JMS/MN

04-06-2002 21:46:30




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to gy3020, 04-06-2002 07:45:39  
Thanks for the reply. The reason the engine bolts fail is because those well-(read:over)) paid engineers decided to hang too much weight and stress on a couple of bolts, rather than lead the stress to the axles that can handle it. The way you notice that the bolts are broken is when you notice the muffler moving side to side within the hole in the hood. First you think you are seeing things or were out a bit late the nite before, then you realize that something is actually moving in an abnormal manner, the hood is not moving, but the muffler is, because the loader frame is making the engine oscillate a bit. When you remove the loader frame and then the engine bolts, you see the damage has been done. Been there and done that, and yes, I know of at least one neighbor who had to buy a new engine block after the first re-threading. My fix fixed the problem after the first re-threading, and welding of one bolt into the frame. For hobby farm work, maybe the mounting will stand up, but around here,with full time farm use, we've all put up with the same thing. I think 4020JD might have four bolts where the 3020 has two (rear of engine), but any loader frame that goes back to the rear axle is better than a frame-hung unit. Think about it- it just makes sense- any axle is stronger than any side frame. If you wish, keep my e-mail in your file. I'm likely to get a digital camera soon and can send some pix about the axle mount.

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JMS/MN

04-06-2002 21:44:45




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to gy3020, 04-06-2002 07:45:39  
Thanks for the reply. The reason the engine bolts fail is because those well-(read:over)) paid engineers decided to hang too much weight and stress on a couple of bolts, rather than lead the stress to the axles that can handle it. The way you notice that the bolts are broken is when you notice the muffler moving side to side within the hole in the hood. First you think you are seeing things or were out a bit late the nite before, then you realize that something is actually moving in an abnormal manner, the hood is not moving, but the muffler is, because the loader frame is making the engine oscillate a bit. When you remove the loader frame and then the engine bolts, you see the damage has been done. Been there and done that, and yes, I know of at least one neighbor who had to buy a new engine block after the first re-threading. My fix fixed the problem after the first re-threading, and welding of one bolt into the frame. For hobby farm work, maybe the mounting will stand up, but around here,with full time farm use, we've all put up with the same thing. I think 4020JD might have four bolts where the 3020 has two (rear of engine), but any loader frame that goes back to the rear axle is better than a frame-hung unit. Think about it- it just makes sense- any axle is stronger than any side frame.

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SmallOps

04-04-2002 04:34:54




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 Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to gy3020, 04-03-2002 19:13:50  
I've got a JD 48 QT Loader w/72 inch bucket and 2-SCV's on the smaller JD utility 1020 and it has been one handy and dependable tool! I looked into a 148 loader and found out the difference between the two is lift capacity (48 is 2400 lbs, 148 is 3000 lbs) Otherwise, these JD loaders are functionally the same.

If you are mounting these loaders on a larger tractor, then the 148, 158 Loader will permit you to lift/move more weight. But, if your intended use is with smaller tractor, the 46, 47, 48, and 58 series will be a very good match, particularly if they are the QT loaders.

BTW asking price, for 148's and 48's is $2200 - 3000 in my area (E. Central Minnesota) and I know of a couple of dealers that have several of them.

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Ron Bowen

11-17-2004 16:42:20




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 Re: Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to SmallOps, 04-04-2002 04:34:54  
Help me find a decent 48 loader to fit my 3020 if you know of several dealers that have them. Thanks.



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Joe,Ks

04-04-2002 02:40:55




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 Re: JD 48 Loader in reply to gy3020, 04-03-2002 19:13:50  
I have a 48 loader with a trip on it, but hey, if you are welding for 2 brackets anyway, ha. It is in great shape and has a manure bucket with a plate over it(factory not me) to allow more dirt capability, I guess. I am on the OK/KS border, 70 mi N of Tulsa.



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