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Larry Hardin

03-22-2002 06:52:47




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looking for some plow frogs for an old 2-14 and 2-16 plow. Thanks




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Rod (NH)

03-22-2002 18:50:29




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 Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Larry Hardin, 03-22-2002 06:52:47  
Hi Larry,

You might try the following site...he lists some shares for IH so he might have some frogs kicking around.

Wouldn't hurt to inquire.

Rod



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JWC

03-22-2002 14:17:58




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 Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Larry Hardin, 03-22-2002 06:52:47  
Larry,
I have been wondering when someone would reply to this one. Many of people under 60 may not know what part of the plow the frog is. You must have gotten hold of some plows where the owners were penny wise and pound foulish about replacing the points. Are you looking for frogs for pull type or mounted plows and do you know the approximate age. Have you tried to get them through Case-IH or whatever the current name is? Is your purpose to restore them for limited use or extended use? Have you considered having a machine or welding shop build up the old ones? For those who don't know the 'FROG' is the part that the plowpoint, shin and wing bolt to on a moldboard plow. It is an important item to check when purchasing a used plow. If the plow saw extended use with worn out points(shares) the frog would become worn up to the bolt holes leaving nothing to mount new points to. There are several brands of new 1 and 2 bottom plows being sold at very low cost. The frog on these units might be compatible with your plow. With a few more details someone may be able to direct you to new or used parts.

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Ultradog MN

03-24-2002 05:18:14




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Ultradog MN, 03-23-2002 15:58:30  
JMS, JWC,
Thanks gentlemen.
That's what I wanted to know.
Looks like the plow I recently bought is in better shape than I thought. There's still about 3" of share/point to wear off before it even gets close to the frog. Hard to believe that someone would let a plow wear down that far before replacing the points. But I suppose a guy figured he could get one more year out of them, and then one more year, and then one more...

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P.S.

03-24-2002 06:34:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Ultradog MN, 03-24-2002 05:18:14  
I think in honor of my French heritage I'm going to call them Frogs and not saddles.
UD



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Ultradog MN

03-24-2002 05:17:56




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Ultradog MN, 03-23-2002 15:58:30  
JMS, JWC,
Thanks gentlemen.
That's what I wanted to know.
Looks like the plow I recently bought is in better shape than I thought. There's still about 3" of share/point to wear off before it even gets close to the frog. Hard to believe that someone would let a plow wear down that far before replacing the points. But I suppose a guy figured he could get one more year out of them, and then one more year, and then one more...

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JMS/MN

03-23-2002 23:06:10




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Ultradog MN, 03-23-2002 15:58:30  
Yo, Ultradog- you're right, what they call the saddle is what we call the frog. As long as the frog is not bent from rocks I would say to rebuild them when they are worn down to the boltholes. Generally only the front hole is damaged- The one closest to the point of the plowshare, since it is drilled more forward of the others. I've often fixed that problem by grinding off the rest of the hole, and welding a large nut in its place. That way you have a considerable amount of metal for the new bolt to hold on to. One could also torch/grind further back and replace the area with a thick chunk of steel and drill the new hole in the proper place. Determine that by bolting the share on with the other bolts and drill through the remaining hole. Sure beats buying a new frog- White frogs are about $140, enough to make you croak!

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JWC

03-23-2002 17:32:05




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Ultradog MN, 03-23-2002 15:58:30  
Ultradog
It is basically the same. It would have been nice it your manual had a part diagram. The 'Frog" as I was taught to call it is the piece which bolts to the vertical plow beam. The plow share (plow point), the shin and the moldboard (wing) and landslide then bolt to it. Each plow is usually referred to as a bottom hence a 1,2,3,4 etc. bottom plow. From the picture you posted that plow does not appear to have replaceable shins. Modern plows had replaceable shins (vertical cutting edges) to extend the life of the moldboards. It is easy to spot a plow that has been used with worn out shares or shins. The frogs may be worn up to the boltholes for the shares and the front edge of the moldboard (wing) will be tapered in thickness. Some of the old Dearborn and possibly the Ferguson 3-pt hitch plows did not have a trip mechanism (either spring trip or shear pin). Be careful if you use one of these where there are roots or rocks. There were a lot of colorful stories by the old-timers about getting their plow hung. A lot of the early pull type plows had spring releases on their hitch in case you snagged something. Hope this helps.

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03-23-2002 17:54:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to JWC, 03-23-2002 17:32:05  
Ultradog,
Checkout this link; �http://www.worksaver.com/Manuals/plow.pdf� it is the online manual for some of the new 1 and 2 bottom plows. Page 21 has a parts diagram that may help you visualize things. These online manuals in PDF format seem to be the 'in' thing for the independent equipment manufacturers. The manual is 75% warning and 25% instruction and information. It does appear that 'Frog' is the currently correct technical term. Have a good one! JWC

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LArry Hardin

03-23-2002 07:20:23




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 Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to JWC, 03-22-2002 14:17:58  
We use this thing every year. We do about 40 acres with it. Big time farmers Ha Ha. they are avaliable thru IH for About $110.00 EACH. thanks for the help, Larry By the way I am 31 years old and had no idea what they were talking about when I fisrt heard them called frogs



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JWC

03-23-2002 14:43:00




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to LArry Hardin, 03-23-2002 07:20:23  
You did not say whether it is a pull type, fasthitch or 3pt plow, just curious. As much as it would sting 2 new frogs would keep that plow going until your on social security long as you keep the points changed. The problem with smaller used plows is that many of the people who bought them when the original owners went to bigger ones did not know to change the points and ruined the frogs. I have an IH 3-16 with cat II 3pt hitch and a Ford 3-14 cat I 3pt hitch. The Ford was bought new in 1964 and did all the plowing upto 80 acres a year for almost 30 years and its frogs are almost like new. The IH was bought used while I was away at college, when I went to change the points I was not thrilled. They are worn, but will still last the rest of my life with good points.

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Tim(nj)

03-23-2002 15:50:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to JWC, 03-23-2002 14:43:00  
I'm just curious as to where your from. Where I live, nobody ever uses the term plow point. It's always been plow shares.



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JWC

03-23-2002 17:10:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Frogs in reply to Tim(nj), 03-23-2002 15:50:18  
Tim, My mother was from Kentucky where her father grew corn and tobacco and raised Angus cattle. My fathers family farmed in Alabama, I grew up there but spent time in Ky also. I used both terms in my first post. Plow point seemed to be the commonly used term. I do not know why it was used over plowshare. The term may come from the days of the old horse drawn plows when the share and shin were made as one piece. It is kind of like the regional references to carbonated beverages, depending on where you are it could be a pop, soda, soda pop, Coke (used generically) or Pepsi (used generically). I know live in MS, but still have the farms in AL. Here all carbonated beverages are 'Cokes' until the waitress asks you what kind you want. All snack crackers are 'Nabs' whether made by Tom's, Lance or Nabisco. I assume you are in New Jersey from you post name.

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