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dave(ne)

03-06-2002 07:43:48




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There is one coming up on an auction. I think this has 9' cut. What parts normally go bad in these. What should I look for to tell if this machine is worn out. Is this one of the older models of haybines. Are parts still available for this. Any ideas on a price range that this thing will bring in the midwest region. Thanks for any help.




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Steve from Pa

03-08-2002 04:39:38




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Dave, the 469 is the haybine that put New Holland way out in front of all the compteition. It came out in 1966 or 67. It was a phenominal machine in it's day. But as others have said, they are getting old. The wobble box, rolls, and headers push links under the machine would be the items to look at. Originally, they had the short guards on, but hopefully this machine has been updated to the new longer guards. The long guards work much better. I'd sooner have a 469 then a newer 479. That's how good these machines were. Steve

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Gregg from Pa

06-25-2002 06:22:42




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 Re: Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to Steve from Pa, 03-08-2002 04:39:38  
I see several people mentioned the 488. Can you tell me what one of those is worth used. I haven't looked at it yet but saw an ad and am wondering what to offer and what to look for. Also saw an ad for a 489, but think that was a misprint.



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gy3020

03-06-2002 17:47:17




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Hey Dave,
I have been cutting hay with a 469 since 1990 and it has served me very well. I have cut alot of hay with it. I agree with the others on the condition of the conditioning rolls and also the wobble box. If you don't have any of the major parts bad in the wobble it doesn't cost too much to go in and rebuild it, done it a few times! I have had the pipe axle that runs underneath it break at one time, that was a fun fix. I did find a used one for $200.00 if I remember right. I have only had to replace one cond. roll bearing since I have had it. I will tell you that if you have to replace the sickle drive belt that that is a real fun job. The owners manual will talk you through it, I just wish it was as simple as it makes it sound. Its not too bad though. If you have any questions feel free to send me a email and I'll be glad to share any knowledge that I have learned on them. They are excellant cutters and I have been told that when NH went to the 488 that they were not built as stout as the 469 or 479. I had a 488 as well at one time and it seemed to do ok too. Gary

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gy3020

03-06-2002 17:47:15




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Hey Dave,
I have been cutting hay with a 469 since 1990 and it has served me very well. I have cut alot of hay with it. I agree with the others on the condition of the conditioning rolls and also the wobble box. If you don't have any of the major parts bad in the wobble it doesn't cost too much to go in and rebuild it, done it a few times! I have had the pipe axle that runs underneath it break at one time, that was a fun fix. I did find a used one for $200.00 if I remember right. I have only had to replace one cond. roll bearing since I have had it. I will tell you that if you have to replace the sickle drive belt that that is a real fun job. The owners manual will talk you through it, I just wish it was as simple as it makes it sound. Its not too bad though. If you have any questions feel free to send me a email and I'll be glad to share any knowledge that I have learned on them. They are excellant cutters and I have been told that when NH went to the 488 that they were not built as stout as the 469 or 479. I had a 488 as well at one time and it seemed to do ok too. Gary

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gy3020

03-06-2002 17:46:40




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Hey Dave,
I have been cutting hay with a 469 since 1990 and it has served me very well. I have cut alot of hay with it. I agree with the others on the condition of the conditioning rolls and also the wobble box. If you don't have any of the major parts bad in the wobble it doesn't cost too much to go in and rebuild it, done it a few times! I have had the pipe axle that runs underneath it break at one time, that was a fun fix. I did find a used one for $200.00 if I remember right. I have only had to replace one cond. roll bearing since I have had it. I will tell you that if you have to replace the sickle drive belt that that is a real fun job. The owners manual will talk you through it, I just wish it was as simple as it makes it sound. Its not too bad though. If you have any questions feel free to send me a email and I'll be glad to share any knowledge that I have learned on them. They are excellant cutters and I have been told that when NH went to the 488 that they were not built as stout as the 469 or 479. I had a 488 as well at one time and it seemed to do ok too. Gary

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ErnieD

03-06-2002 15:09:52




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
We bought a well used one in 1972. Look for spun on the shaft bearings for the crusher rolls. The pivot bolt from the wobble shaft to cutter bar liked to fall out. Slip clutch bolts broke and were easily replaced. There was short wire rope attchment for tensioning the crusher rolls, ours rusted out and lost roll tension.

If the machine is in half way decent shape you wont be disappointed. If the bearings are shot and the rolls are bad....

Neighbor had a self propelled heston with a wisconsin power unit, it was broke down and he stopped and asked if he could hire me to cut 5A of hay that afternoon for his cows. I said sure, but n/c. Dad and I hung the wings to windrow the hay. He said he would give me a 3 hour head start, he had a Massey 1130 and IH chopper and was sure he could chop faster than I could cut. I said make it 20 minutes. I had a Ford 5000 and the NH 469 and the hay was real heavy, nice crop.

To this day I will never forget the look on his face as I was cutting in second gear on full governer faster than he could chop. The next day he asked me to accompany him as he bought a brand new self propelled NH haybine. It was over $10,000.

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ErnieD

03-06-2002 15:04:45




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
We bought a well used one in 1972. Look for spun on the shaft bearings for the crusher rolls. The pivot bolt from the wobble shaft to cutter bar liked to fall out. Slip clutch bolts broke and were easily replaced. There was short wire rope attchment for tensioning the crusher rolls, ours rusted out and lost roll tension.

If the machine is in half way decent shape you wont be disappointed. If the bearings are shot and the rolls are bad....

Neighbor had a self propelled heston with a wisconsin power unit, it was broke down and he stopped and asked if he could hire me to cut 5A of hay that afternoon for his cows. I said sure, but n/c. Dad and I hung the wings to windrow the hay. He said he would give me a 3 hour head start, he had a Massey 1130 and IH chopper and was sure he could chop faster than I could cut. I said make it 20 minutes. I had a Ford 5000 and the NH 469 and the hay was real heavy, nice crop.

To this day I will never forget the look on his face as I was cutting in second gear on full governer faster than he could chop. The next day he asked me to accompany him as he bought a brand new self propelled NH haybine. It was over $10,000.

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Clem

03-06-2002 14:49:38




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Like Josh said, the rollers and I would add the wobble box. Those two things can be expensive. Parts are still available from NH. Around here they'd go for $100 for a parts machine to $1000 for one in really good condition.



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Clem

03-06-2002 14:49:13




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
Like Josh said, the rollers and I would add the wobble box. Those two things can be expensive. Parts are still available from NH. Around here they'd go for $100 for a parts machine to $1000 for one in really good condition.



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Josh

03-06-2002 10:12:12




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 Re: NH 469 Haybine in reply to dave(ne), 03-06-2002 07:43:48  
The rolls are an important and very expensive thing to look at. Ideally they should still be in good condition without missing rubber and not dry rotted to bad. For a machine this old it is unlikely to find them like this though. It is an older machine, but I am not sure how old. I bought one at auction last week in PA for $100. Hope this helps a little.



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