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JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter?

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reb

02-12-2002 06:48:23




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Mike wanted to know which was first with the air corn planter, John Deere or White.




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Jeff

02-13-2002 12:33:04




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
I thought New Idea had theirs pattented first



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peter

02-12-2002 19:42:38




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
massey ferguson had air in 1971



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MCL in IN

02-12-2002 18:42:57




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
The 1974 White (Oliver) Farm Equipment catalog show the "new" Plant/Aire planter unit. The pull type was the model 5400 and toolbar version was the 3400. The concept, be it improved, is still used on White planters today. JD didn't have a vacuum planter until the late 80's sometime. I don't know when IH came out with the Cyclo air planters. If it was before 1974 I guess they get credit. IH and White use 2 completely different systems though.

Which one is best? I don't know but we have a 1980 5100 White that we bought new in 1981 and I wouldn't trade it for all the green vacuum (or mechanical) planters in the world.

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IH is the winner - 400 cyclo air

02-12-2002 12:39:57




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
IH was first, and still makes the best air planters.



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Really?

02-12-2002 17:21:29




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 Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to IH is the winner - 400 cyclo air, 02-12-2002 12:39:57  
I suppose that's why they consistently place last in accuracy trials? The new Whites are actually the most accurate of the air/vacuum machines.



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Cliff Neubauer

02-13-2002 06:18:21




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 Re: Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to Really?, 02-12-2002 17:21:29  
I am a die hard red guy but the spacing accuracy of the IH air planters was very poor, I don't know how Francis Childs did so well with one. The new CIH 1200 ASM planters are supposed to be the most accurate on the market and I've heard that from guys running other color planters.



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JS

02-12-2002 20:25:00




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 Re: Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to Really?, 02-12-2002 17:21:29  
If they are that bad why has Francis Childs won all the Corn Growers contests with a IH 800 Early Riser and this year with a 1200 ASM?



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Larry

02-12-2002 10:03:18




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
IH had the first air planter, oliver was a close second with the green air planter in early 70's.Deere was the last to make a air planter.



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Cliff Neubauer

02-12-2002 07:12:40




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
I think the JD vac planters came out in '84 or '85 but I think the White 5100 planters came out earlier.



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JD70Jim

02-12-2002 06:59:10




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 Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to reb, 02-12-2002 06:48:23  
I allways thought that the IHC 400 cyclo was the first air planter. JD had a great, mechanical finger, plateless planter which was also revolutionary but it wasn't an air planter. As for WHITE? I never knew anyone or ever even saw anyone who had one.



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paul

02-13-2002 04:51:58




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 Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to JD70Jim, 02-12-2002 06:59:10  
JD had their 1300 planter.

Allis & Ford also has some air planters way back in time.

I don't know who was first, but you need to do some more research, these were '60s or early 70's machines. :)

--->Paul



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jeff

02-12-2002 07:01:49




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 Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to JD70Jim, 02-12-2002 06:59:10  
the ih 400 came out at least 20 years ago



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BUDD

02-13-2002 03:40:25




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 Re: Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to jeff, 02-12-2002 07:01:49  
I recall sometime around 1973ish we had a IH air planter on the farm I worked on.



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Andy

02-12-2002 07:30:01




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 Re: Re: Re: JD-vs-White :who come out with the first air corn planter? in reply to jeff, 02-12-2002 07:01:49  
I know White had air planters in the mid 70's. An electric motor was on each unit unlike the 5100 which had one big fan for all units. I seem to recall seeing a green "Oliver" air planter, this would put the date to the early 70's. JD was never in the early air planter game.



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