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What size / type plow to buy?

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Mike (MI)

02-07-2002 10:27:20




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Time permitting, I will have a Minneapolis Moline M5 diesel restored by fall, or next spring. I don't have any type of plow for it. It has a cat. II three point. It's basically a 60 Hp tractor, and was advertised as being able to handle a 4-16 mouldboard. The fields I will be plowing haven't been touched in 15 years. I'm wondering if a 3-18 would be better suited, or it maybe a chisel plow would be better for the application. If anyone has any suggestion on what I should be looking for at the auctions, or any input at all, I would be grateful.

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Mike(MI)

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paul

02-08-2002 05:42:59




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 Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to Mike (MI), 02-07-2002 10:27:20  
I guess I agree with the rest, good advise.

Chisel plow will drag a lot of grass, and it will regrow as it's not turned over.

Where I live is heavy clay soils - mostly. I have 5 acres of shale sand that is _thin_ soil, 15 acres of peat (muck to some?) that is so rich & soft it burned for a couple years before it was plowed... The rest is clay loam valleys with yellow clay hills.

So, that sand hill I could plow in 6th gear if it wouldn't heat up the bottom & wear it off too much. The peat I could plow in 5th gear, except it plugs up so bad with cornstalks I mostly am standing still. The rest pulls about right in 3rd-4th gear (8 speed tranny). But, 4 of the last 20 years have been different conditions, and I've been down to 2nd gear most of those years, with the front end in the air, the radiator steaming, the diff lock on all the time...

This was an 85 hp tractor with 4-16" on it. (Now I have a 4-18" on a 135 hp tractor, and I can still make it grunt on some fields...)

So, what kind of soil do you have? 'Here' we can _never_ pull what a tractor is 'rated' for. Maybe that works where you are tho. Me, I always try to err on the side of keeping the tractor happy. You should be able to pull a 3-16" no matter what the year throws at you. If you have the easy soils, 4-14" might be a good match.

As mentioned, several models of beam plows use all the same bolt holes, so you can take the last bottom off & move the rear wheel up. Others have a bolted joint in the beam, and are really built to be extended, from 3-6 bottoms whatever you want.

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TP from Central PA

02-08-2002 17:09:28




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 Re: Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to paul, 02-08-2002 05:42:59  
I would go with 4-14's, we have 'em for our 560. Which is a 60 Hp class tractor. I think they would work the best considering the sod has not been touched in years. You could use them for a couple of years and then if you find a set of 4-16's you could then trade up as your ground would be broken and will pull a heck of a lot easier!



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JWC

02-07-2002 16:20:01




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 Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to Mike (MI), 02-07-2002 10:27:20  
Mike,
Something I did not see mentioned in the other posts, is that a 4-16 is basically a 3-16 with one frame and bottom added (within the same series). The four bottom on some models has an extra support beam on top. The same principal applies to 2 and 3 bottom units from the same series. 4 bottom plows are often found for a lower price than a 2 or 3 bottom. If you run accross a 4 bottom plow for the right price and it is too much of a load drop the fourth bottom and mount the furrow wheel or slide on the third bottom. Ford plows from the 60's and 70's are a safe bet as well as JD and IH. Shear pin trip might be better if the plow is very weathered. I would suggest making sure all the bottoms will trip before you find that rock or stump that won't give.

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Tim(nj)

02-07-2002 15:32:59




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 Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to Mike (MI), 02-07-2002 10:27:20  
4-14" might be a possibility, but 3-16" would be your best bet. A chisel plow will make a mess out of ground that has old sod on it.



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John in Maryland

02-07-2002 14:08:15




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 Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to Mike (MI), 02-07-2002 10:27:20  
I ain't sure if a 3-18 exists, it may, but 3-16 or 4-16 would be easieer to find. I believe 3-16 would suit you better. 4 seems to be a bit much for a 60 hp tractor, but maybe not. Alot depends on the ground being worked, and I think if you are plowing land that hasn't been plowed in 15 years, it is gonna be kinda tough, depending on type of soil. But, if the tractor was set up for 4 plows, it may be kinda difficult to get a 3 bottem plow to be set up right on that tractor. Just my opinion though.

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Ron Johnson

02-07-2002 12:38:09




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 Re: What size / type plow to buy? in reply to Mike (MI), 02-07-2002 10:27:20  
I have a 1600 Oliver with oversized sleeves and pistons and puts out about 67 hp. On my ground with is heavy loam with clay base. I find that 3-16s is all I can handle. Certin conditions would let me jump to the 4-16s, but for sod and hills I will stick with the 3-16.



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