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Planting Bahia Grass Seed

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Cary

02-05-2002 10:37:40




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Guys, I've got a broadcast seeder but no drill, etc. I need to renovate my pasture (recently purchased) and plan to plant to bahia grass. Ok to use the broadcast spreader? Will I get a good stand this way? Any suggestions on doing this? thanks!




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PCC-AL

02-05-2002 14:23:22




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 Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Cary, 02-05-2002 10:37:40  
Bahia grass is terrible. I would just as soon have Kudzu. Bahia is what I have been posting about attempting to mow during the warm months. The 2nd or 3rd cutting with a little of the old grass on the ground will give a workout to most small and medium tractors and mowers. Listen to hay, he has the right info.



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Cary

02-05-2002 14:25:47




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 Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to PCC-AL, 02-05-2002 14:23:22  
OK...I gotcha. Have Bahia in part of the pasture that looks ok..the rest is mostly bare spots. Want to get it in shape to put some cows on it.



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Burrhead

02-05-2002 16:34:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Cary, 02-05-2002 14:25:47  
When the weather warms back up a little you may already have bermuda in the bare spots.

There is'nt anything wrong with bahai. It makes good forage and hay if you fertilize and manage it.

The same is true with bermuda. If you don't keep bermuda grass fertilized and baled or cut it at about every 2 months the protein value gets pretty low.

PCC-AL is either pulling your leg or he never had kudzu troubles.

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Hey, I wasn't really joking, but -PCC-AL

02-05-2002 18:09:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Burrhead, 02-05-2002 16:34:01  
Maybe I didn't think it out first. O.K., Bahia is easy. It doesn't take any special care to plant and grow. I believe that the main fault of Bahia is that once it is established, it is extremely hard to get rid of. I am not sure that it provides equal nutrients as Coastal Bermuda and don't think that it does. Most folks in my area that try to grow high quality grass and hay tend to stay away from Bahia. I guess I just popped off too quickly. Sorry.

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Burrhead

02-06-2002 13:31:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Hey, I wasn't really joking, but -PCC-AL, 02-05-2002 18:09:47  
Naw I did'nt think you was popping off I just wanted him to stop and consider that no matter what he plants or maintains in his pastures he will never get any better forage than the amount of management he puts into the grass.

Where I've kept up with it and sent the hay in to the lab, the bahai and bermuda have'nt ever been over 4% protein spread, and the bahai constantly turns out more tonnage per acre.

The reason the bahai turns into a hard stem is from letting it grow too long.

The best producing and most protein hay patch I have is Dallis and white clover. This patch does good in dry or wet years and the clover keeps the nitrogen up in the ground.

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john

02-06-2002 03:17:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Hey, I wasn't really joking, but -PCC-AL, 02-05-2002 18:09:47  
suggest you think again. i have bahia in what was once a fine coastal field. volunteer bahia has taken overthe entire 48 acres leaving almost no other grass. it does not stand drought well here in houston area. maybe this is a local problem. however since feeding it.it is now all over my place. further to this ,it is extremely hard on mowing machinery in our climate.without a disc mower i would forget it.use a wire cutter.i never have been able to keep a sicklemower sharp. possibly a local climate problem causes it to grow stems like wire wire grass.good luck. john

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bob

02-06-2002 06:49:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to john, 02-06-2002 03:17:09  
didn,t know what it was but neighhbor has it in north west IOWA and he can,t hardly get anybody to cut it as is just like wire and it does spread as notice it in my pasture but am going to put in legumes after cutting brome then spray with roundup and disc then plant alfa. never paid att to fert. difference tho



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hay

02-05-2002 13:37:25




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 Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Cary, 02-05-2002 10:37:40  
i have never seen or heard of anyone planting bahia grass. that stuff just happens. everyone i know of is trying to get rid of that stuff and replace it with coastal bermuda or tifton 85. however if you want to plant it, any method of spreading the seed will work.



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Keith

02-05-2002 14:32:34




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 Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to hay, 02-05-2002 13:37:25  
yeah everyone tries to kill Bahaia from their hay fields BUT, I don't mind it in my pasture. I have seen cows walk over Coastal to get to Bahaia. It is also hardier than Coastal. I moved my cows this summer from my dried out bermuda pastures to a pasture that was full of Bahaia and they did just fine. They seem to graze it or Johnson grass or even Dallas grass just fine. If you want it in pasture, plant it. My neighbor tried to use some new herbicide to kill it in his hayfield without much luck.

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hay

02-06-2002 05:10:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to Keith, 02-05-2002 14:32:34  
i have heard that ALLY herbicide will kill it. you are right about bahaia being hardy and tough. my cows would also walk over summer dead bermuda to get to the green bahaia. after the bermuda revives the bahaia does not stand a chance then. my point is that bahaia tends to choke out other more desireable hay grasses. and it is awful hard to get rid of it unless you herbicide it down. overseeding/oversprigging with other grasses is a waste of time and energy because a stand of bahaia will just choke it out.

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HaySam

02-06-2002 10:07:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to hay, 02-06-2002 05:10:59  
Boy did youall throw water on his fire. suggest he put somegrass burs and nut grassin with his bahia seed.



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hay

02-06-2002 10:50:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to HaySam, 02-06-2002 10:07:05  
i'm sorry if i offended anyone. i was just trying to help based on what expierence i have with grasses and haymaking.



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HaySam

02-06-2002 16:59:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Bahia Grass Seed in reply to hay, 02-06-2002 10:50:27  
Hay I agree with you 100%, When you bale your hay That dang stuff is heading the next week.



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