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Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler

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Steve

01-27-2002 12:47:11




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I'm posting this for a friend. But am wondering if anyone can give me any information about an Allis Chalmers Baler. I'm in Texas the Baler is in Louisiana. I don't have a model # for it. I just know as best we can figure it's somewhere around 40 plus years old & baled a small round bale, approximately the size of a regular square bale. Any information would be apprediated.... Thanks in advance.

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snowman

02-02-2002 21:07:36




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  

sure hope you have alot of patience & a Allis tractor with hand clutch without these they are hard to run & figure out. Grew up around them my brother lost his arm in ours. Will not bale hay green it will wrap on press roller if it is. Dad always said he could bale more hay after 5pm than all afternoon with ours. If you want info e-mail me @ [email protected]. snowman.



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JMS/MN

01-28-2002 21:33:04




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  
The key to making a good bale with a rotobaler is to construct double windrows- Two windrows side-by-side, total width just beyond that of the total width of the belts on the baler, or just wider than the conveyor chain. No gap inbetween. Dad bought a baler in about 1949, used it til he sold out in'65. Very dependable machine, only breakdown was a little cast part that got welded a couple of times. Belts will last if you stop moving forward as soon as the twine bar drops down- don't try to cram more hay in. We never broke a belt. We had no live pto until '56, WD45 was bought, although the WC had a throwout lever between tranny and diff. that was quicker than shifting the tranny into neutral. Had to footclutch to restart after each bale, though. Bales shedded water very well, and wagons needed a foot-high board around them to hold bales for stacking. Outside stacks were usually started with about 10 bales on the ground and additional rows added to make a peak, and additional 'stooks' added alongside for whatever length of stack desired.

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Tom From Tx.

01-28-2002 19:01:58




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  
Steve I live in Carthage Tx and I collect and restore New Holland balers. A friend of mine collects AC tractors and he bought a AC baler and he wants me to restore it and it would be ours together. Where do you live in Texas? Lousiana is about 25 miles from here. E-mail me



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John Ne.

01-28-2002 17:34:05




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  
We had a Rotobaler for years, the literature boasted that since it took the natural length of hay cut and wrapped it, it had half the cut stems to cause irritation to the animal. There is a small clutch on the right rear of the machine that is probably stuck from sitting, the belts were endless, meaning lots of disassembly to install, but you can probably get replacements that splice. They were fiendish in making ice cream cone shaped bales, if the windrow wasn't nice and even. You need a tractor with live power to run one, practically, since the machine had to be stopped to discharge each bale, at least the first series did. Baling without live power meant lots of wear on your clutch foot. The upside was they kept the hay in top condition longer, unrolling a bale deep in a stack after two or more years revealed good quality hay. Nother thing, some guys never did get the hang of stacking them, the stacks would get so high and they would come down like house of cards with the lower levels just rolling away. If you have patience they were an interesting machine to run. John in Ne.

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FM...

01-28-2002 19:46:19




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 Re: Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to John Ne., 01-28-2002 17:34:05  
Please explain how to stack these round bales...inquiring minds want to know!



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Tom W.

01-28-2002 13:55:40




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  
They are quite common. You should be able to find one closer to you than Louisiana. I have two in Kansas that I would probably sell you. The belts are fair. They have been outside for years.



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Clem

01-27-2002 14:13:26




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 Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Steve , 01-27-2002 12:47:11  
I think what you're talking is an Allis Chamlers Rotobaler. What would you like to know?



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steve

01-27-2002 18:31:41




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 Re: Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Clem, 01-27-2002 14:13:26  
Clem I'd like to know anything at all about them. The years they were produced. How diffucult one might be to restore. I was thinking if it was worth the drive I'd go pick it up & try to restore it. basicly anything you could tell me about it would be a great help. Thanks again



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Clem

01-28-2002 14:04:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to steve, 01-27-2002 18:31:41  
The Rotobaler was produced from 1947 until 1960. Production was resumed in 1963 and discontinued again in 1971. It resumed again in 1972 and stoped for the last time in 1974. I have a '50 and a '74. They make a small round bale, about the size of a small square bale. Rotobaler are not worth very much. around here, you can buy them for $50 to $150 in operating condition. Some parts are still available from Agco. Belt are still available from several sources. I wouldn't spend too much money on one since at this point there is lttle collector interest.

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jim

01-28-2002 15:54:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to Clem, 01-28-2002 14:04:38  
As an aside,many of the Roto-Balers in Southern Ontario , along with IH pto grain binders,were bought up in the early 60's and sent to South America. Roto-Balers were popular here in areas where Allis Chalmers had good dealers. Bales were easy to load on a wagon with pitch forks and in some areas , the bales were left in the field to be used for winter grazing. Bales left for grazing were not wrapped with twine. Incidently , the twine used was binder twine , not ordinary baler twine. Just thought you'd like to know.

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FM..Make sure belts are good

01-27-2002 19:56:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers Baler in reply to steve, 01-27-2002 18:31:41  
If the belts aren't good you will spend more getting new ones than the baler is worth.



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