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Frank

01-16-2002 10:12:48

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I am planning to bu a NH baler & thrower.
To date I have found a NICE 310 and fair 273 and 276 machines.
One salesman advised against the 310 series.
Any suggestions from you people?

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Steve from N.H. Pa

01-18-2002 04:44:42

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

Dick, here are the problems with these 2 models. First the 310: The 310 is the same as a 273 with minor changes. Now, the 273 was a teriffic baler, but he 310 was a REAL dog. Why? The 273 ran at a speed of 66 strokes per minute at 540 RPM. New Holland got the bright idea that this baler could handle more speed. Enter the 310. WRONG! The 310 gearbox was stepped up to run at 75 strokes per minute. The little baler just was not built heavy enough to take it. We had so many feeder track assemblies that blew apart in the first couple of months (Yes, that right, months) it wasn't funny. Also, the plungers on the early ones would break as well. If you find a decent 310 and run it 20% under pto speed, they aren't too bad. 2nd, the 320: What a high capacity baler! That baler was a hog!!! However, once again, New Holland had it geared a little too fast. It ran at 105 strokes per minute. The feeder fork assembly can only handle about 90 strokes per minute to last for years and years without blowing up. If you find a decent 320 and run it at 20% under pto speed as well, they aren't too bad. I could go on and on, but I won't. If anyone wants more info, please feel free to email me. Steve

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CDH

01-18-2002 16:19:43

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Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Steve from N.H. Pa, 01-18-2002 04:44:42

Steve Would like ad my 2cents worth I have bailed for close to 40 years and my experience with hew holland they are the BEST I have owned 66 268 320 575 I have found that they preforme there best 62 to 65 plunges per minute at 1500 to 1600 tractor RPM all my haying aquipment is new holland I do have a pequa tetter I think the 575 is the best for bigger the windrow the better it bales I have Later CDH ps I bale 6 to 8 thousand bales every wear thats hay straw

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CDH

01-18-2002 16:20:42

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Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Steve from N.H. Pa, 01-18-2002 04:44:42

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Steve from N.H. Pa

01-17-2002 18:00:10

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

Frank, if I may, I would like to add my 2 cents for what it is worth. I have been employed at a New Holland dealership for 25 years. Most of this experience has been in service, so I feel I know N.H. balers pretty well. There is no doubt about it, N.H. has been King of the small balers, but even the best have there highs and lows. The old 76 and 77's were really good. The 66 wasn't bad either. But when N.H. came out with the 68, that put them on the map. Great baler. The 268, 269, 272, and 273 were very good. Slow, but good. The 273 was a hugh seller. However, the following balers should be purchased with caution: 310, 315, and 320. They are the same vintage, mid to late 70's up through early to mid eighties. Be very careful with the 310 and 320. The follow up models were some of the best of all time: 311, 316, and 326. GREAT balers. If you need more info, email me. I'll be happy to chat about N.H. balers. Steve

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Dick Davis

01-18-2002 02:48:53

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Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Steve from N.H. Pa, 01-17-2002 18:00:10

So Steve what's the problem with the 310 & 320? What did they do to fix the problem with the follow on balers? Appreciate your insight. Someday I might consider replacing my Model 80 NH. Thanks for a response, Dick

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Mfarmall

01-17-2002 06:36:39

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

I have a 320 modified to a 326 and it is a good baler.....I baled about 2,000 bales this year w no break downs.
Mfarmall

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B.C,

01-17-2002 06:12:16

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

As long as it's newer than a 66 with that wadboard deal, you got it made.

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Bob Semrau

01-17-2002 07:12:34

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Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to B.C,, 01-17-2002 06:12:16

What's your problem with the wadboard ? I bought a 66 four years ago for $325, have put several thousand bales through it, and have spent maybe $50 on parts to keep it going. It misses a tie about once every 100 bales, and you have to go kind of slow with it, but it's been a good baler - it certainly doesn't owe me anything.

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B.C.

01-18-2002 17:22:47

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Re: Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Bob Semrau, 01-17-2002 07:12:34

The one I got was like the one-hoss shay two days before the end. It had gotten a "liquid rebuild" (paint and decals) and since it was a NH I took a chance on it. I guess I gave about 250 for it at an auction.

The first year wasn't too bad, but starting the second year the rebuild program began. It wound up including a new wadboard, wadboard drive chains along with a new wadboard chain sprocket and bearings, and a bunch of pickup teeth. When all that and more started getting to the right of 700 I decided to do something else. Instead of half a dozen sticks of dynamite we got a NH68 which has given us good service for 10 or 12 summers now.

We take parts off the 66 as they are needed and as appropriate. It finally serves us well.

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Bob Semrau

01-19-2002 17:13:54

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Re: Re: Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to B.C., 01-18-2002 17:22:47

Well, mine doesn't have much of the original paint left, but had always been shedded before I bought it. I just don't think that all 66's are as bad as yours was.

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B.C.

01-19-2002 20:52:52

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Bob Semrau, 01-19-2002 17:13:54

It may be that none of them are.

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jim

01-16-2002 18:50:45

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

I think you'll find that under the changes in the sheet metal , all those models are basically the same machine. 315 , 320 etc. have greater capacity but the smaller machines are great if you don't crowd them. I purchased a 268 new in 1968 and used it on 300 acres till 1996 when we got a good used 316 with thrower. Hate to say it but the Deere thrower will give you a better shaped thrower bale if your in commercial hay production.

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Scott

01-16-2002 16:59:35

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

All these models are good choices as long as an amish family did not own it, they don't grease often enough and the steel wheels stress the machine too much over rough ground.

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mark

01-16-2002 15:45:45

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Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to Frank, 01-16-2002 10:12:48

I have a 273 been a good baler.I try to keep maint. up on it which is very important and not feed hay into it very fast when baleing.

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TP from Central PA

01-16-2002 16:12:19

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Re: Re: NH Baler Choice in reply to mark, 01-16-2002 15:45:45

All the models mentioned are good balers! We have a 269 and love it! I have also used the neighbors 311(don't know if it is similar to the 310) and have also liked it very much! I don't think NH has ever built a bad baler- our old 77 is a good baler, just doesn't have enough capacity for us with the Wisconsin Engine, but it is a nice thing to have on the farm as a backup!!!!!

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