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Pat

12-05-2001 17:54:39




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Hello out there,
I have noticed several posts about actually planting crops and was wondering you all could help me a little bit. I'm in college now and love fooling with antique farm machinery.I would also like to put it all together to make some summertime income by raising corn to sell.

I live in West Virginia and have access to several acres of cleared bottomland of sandy/loam texture. It currently has grass/weed stubble about 6" tall that I keep bush hogged. The land has never to my knowledge been used for Ag. purposes.

The equipment I have collected for this so far consists of a Farmall Super A w/plow, John Deere 60 w/cultivators, and a John Deere 1050 (compact diesel) to operate a 5' disc and John Deere ?256-257? 2-row corn planter.

My questions are:
1)when should I plow
2)when should I apply fert. & lime, and what is the ideal ph, ect... 3)what variety of corn
4)when should I plant
5)should I stagger planting to have a longer production, and if so how much
6)is irrigation something to consider
7)can you think of any additional equipment I need.
8)is spraying for bugs neccassary
9)is spraying for weeds neccassary, or should cultivating be sufficient.

Thanks for any help, Pat

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Hal

12-06-2001 15:33:24




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
1. If the fields have a lot of perennial weeds, quack grass, whatever, it would have been better if you killed them off with Roundup earlier this fall. It is probably too late now as the weeds are not actively growing. If you have perennial weeds I would wait until they green up in the spring, spray with Roundup(glyphosate), wait 4 or 5 days and then plow.

2. If you can get on the fields now, check the ph as soon as possible and lime to get it up to 6-6.5. Corn is sensitive to ph, too high is no good also, I would not try to go up to 7.

3. Varieties- First decide what color is popular in your area. Some places you can only sell white corn, others bicolor or yellow. There are basically 3 sweet corn types available: Normal sweet hybrids that have been around for years, sugar enhanced types (SE), and supersweets. If you only have a few acres, I would stick to only one of these groups the first year; one reason, supersweets MUST be isolated from others, and SE's are better if you isolate. Personally, I would start with homozygous SE varieties, Lancelot, Delectable, Seneca Wardance are some bicolors, Silver King, Argent are white, maybe others can suggest some varieties. Make successive plantings; when one is up out of the ground, plant again. Each time plant 2 or 3 different maturities, like 65-70 days, 75 days, and 80+ day.

6. If you have a severe drought you will need irrigation or no corn. The critical time is when the ears are filling out.

7. I think you will need something to smooth the land a little behing the disk, a harrow of some kind, field cultivator, cultipacker or at least drag a heavy beam, pipe or log behind the disk.

8. Spraying for bugs will be necessary, especially later in the season. You will need a boom sprayer that is height adjustable and can go over the corn. If you are going to spray, plan out the spacing of your rows to leave a driveway for the sprayer. Some times you can stick another crop in the driveway, like beans, basil or something.

9. Spraying for weeds you might get by without, but I wouldn't try it. It is so easy and effective to plant and spray immediately with something like a mix of atrazine and lasso or Dual or whatever is used in your area. If it rains in a few days you will have very few weeds. You don't want to be cultivating or pulling weeds when you are busy with the next planting, spraying, picking etc.

10. Hope you dont't have a lot of trouble with critters, birds, deer, racoons etc.
Good luck.

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bogs ( sorry found a better link)

12-06-2001 12:14:43




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
try this is perfect for you since you are from wv

www.wvu.edu/~agexten/hortcult/homegard/sweetcorn.htm



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Pat

12-06-2001 18:46:04




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 Re: Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to bogs ( sorry found a better link), 12-06-2001 12:14:43  
hey bogs,
I just finished reading these sites, they were great, thanks for the info!



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bogs

12-06-2001 12:12:02




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
try this link

www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/hil-50.html



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Pat

12-06-2001 11:08:24




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
Thanks for all of the help guys, I guess I better be putting the plow in the ground soon! ,Pat



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david

12-06-2001 10:02:04




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
First step is to soil test. Pull samples and send through WVU, County Agent should be able to help. I used to work NE KY as an ag agent and worked with a lot of WVU Agents, good people. I disagree with the pH 7, most recommendations show a 6-6.5, which makes a lot trace elements more available. I would fall plow and let freezing work on the sod. Plant last week of April through June. About what you think you can sell per week for each harvest. I would go ahead and take pesticide applicator training. If you plan on several acres of sweet corn pesticides are almost a "must" in this area for ear worms. Some of the restricted chemicals are safer for you and less expensive per acre than some of the general use.

One idea for teh early market is grow seedings in "float" (tobacco) trays and transplant. Gets you on the market 2-3 weeks early. Typically this is the most profitable time.

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bogs

12-06-2001 11:50:10




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 Re: Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to david, 12-06-2001 10:02:04  
always should check with your county agent...up in ny we alwyas tried to get ph around 7 technical 6.5 to 7...but i guess thats here



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SuperHank

12-06-2001 08:45:57




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
Two years ago I planted 9 acres and made a very good crop. Sold everything I made. Last year dry conditions made a late crop. but I sold everything the corn ear worms missed. Plant as early as possible and it will help avoid the earworms. Even if there are some you can cut the end off before sale. Many people use the ear worms as proof of no pesticides.
You can make a good a little money in the process.

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paul

12-06-2001 07:49:35




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
Here in southern Minnesota plow in fall, let winter mellow out the lumps, let the sun warm the black ground as early as possible.

If you have more than an acre or so, here the ag coops (or fert dealers) will be happy to soil test & recommend & apply the fertilizer for you - whichever steps you want done. If this is a long-term plan, would be good to get off in the right foot on soil fertility.

Here they plant sweet corn as soon as they possibly can get in the field. If the first acre freezes off, small loss just replant - if it makes it, the earliest crop makes the most money, big payoff. Here waiting until spring to plow & waiting for last frost would mean no market for you - everyone else would have early corn & your markets for the season...)

Here they plant for a month or more, staggering the crop, every few days.

If you use livestock manure and only cultivate & no spray & live by 'city folks' you might be able to charge a premium for organic sweetcorn. (There are legal rules on labeling stuff 'organic' tho, you need to follow.)

However, planting into weedy grass ground is going to be a _LOT_ of weeds and a _LOT_ of insects for your sweet corn - doubt you would get a crop that first year without spraying. Also, corn on corn year ofter year adds to weeds & insect problems. Are you planning to rotate with a different crop in following years?

This is how things are done in Minnesota, don't know if _any_ of it applies to your location.

--->Paul

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bogs

12-06-2001 05:50:48




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
ph should be around 7. i think you should stagger production maybe 2 to 3 days. maybe others could provide a better timeframe as to what works best with them. You said that this land has never beed used for ag before...is there anyways you could haul some manure on the field to reduce some of your fertilizer costs.



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Mike (IN)

12-05-2001 20:36:49




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 Re: Sweetcorn Production in reply to Pat, 12-05-2001 17:54:39  
I can't answer every question, but I'll try to get as many as I can, and hopefully some others can help you, too. Myself, I sometimes plow in the fall, but others wait until spring to hold down erosion. Fertilizer-wise, I use a water-soluble type (Miracle-Gro), but I only put out an acre or so of sweet corn. When to plant? Most books will tell you after danger of frost. Find out when the average last frost day is in your area and plant after that. 9 times out of 10, you'll be fine. I've planted early, before, but have found it to be risky, as a time or two I lucked out, but a time or two, frost got me, too.
As for variety, there are so many out there. I personally like Golden Bantem, Kandy Korn, Stowell's Evergreen, & Silverado, to name a few. I'd recommend you check some seed company websites, like Burpee's, Park's, Harris, Jung, R.H. Shumway, or Landreth to name a few. Most of them have free seed catalogs they'll send. Also, different varieties have different maturation dates, so if you want to extend the season, you can either stagger your planting or plant different maturing varieties. Also, be careful, planting white corn next to yellow corn, because of cross-pollination. Good luck!

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