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Jerry D in NC

11-25-2001 16:35:07

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I have just bought a JD 1207 after getting information here a couple of weeks ago. It seems to be in good shape but has not been used in many years. It has been stored in a shed and covered with a tarp. Thanks for the information received. I will get a manual for it as soon as I get it home and start going over it.

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john2510-3020

11-26-2001 16:07:22

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Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Jerry D in NC, 11-25-2001 16:35:07

jerry i have talked with you before i think about the ford balers, i never got around to writing on your other post but i will now. since you have already bought the machine my opinion will not matter much. but about 2 years ago i got a REAL good deal or so i thought....i only gave $50 for the jd 1207 and a side delivery rake....went and got the mower but never picked up the rake..i used the mower 2 times and the top roller bearing went out i replaced and used it almost all season and went to use it last year and after 2 rounds i heard this most god awful squal.....it was the same bearing so after replacing i decided to park the mower in the fence row....looks a little rough but what do looks mean??? mine is missing the shield over the gearbix and the rear windrower guards have been welded up a time or two. the rollers have no rubber what so ever which i guess it the reason for it not takeing the hay on through instead it flipped it up pver the reel doen all the adjusting i could and never got it right. when we got it we replaced the sections and got a diffrent bar for it too...my friend had a 1209 for a year or two then traded up to a 1219 which is the same thing he ssaid it was no less of a piece of junk then the 1209 was withen a few months of use the rubber on the rollers started comeing off so he traded it for a new holland 12' mower and has never regreated it since... jerry i hope you have better luck with your 1207 then i did but i found out which i personally think is teh best mower now and that is the 990 ih haybine i have 2 a 7' and a 9' i can keep right up with my helper, and he has a 100hp tractor and jd 260 diskmower that is about 10 years newer then my 990's. Personally jerry i think you shoulda waited and seen if you could fine a 990 you wouldnt be sorry with one of those machines....dont get me wrong im a jd man through and through but i will NEVER go back to jd mowers..i didnt write this to scare you i was mainly trying to show what to looks for as in trouble you might incounter. john.
P.S:
i am planing on putting the 1207 up for sell here in a few days for around 100 to $150....

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Jerry D in NC

11-27-2001 03:36:41

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Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to john2510-3020, 11-26-2001 16:07:22

I have waited and waited for years. Been mowing with a 501 sicklebar for years and found this one for $400. It does not look worn out but then again I have not hooked it up. I won't be cutting 50 acres a year with it so I probably won't wear it out if it mows. The lady had wanted $800 for it but I had offered her $400 and told her to give me a call if she wanted to sell it for that. Got the call a couple of days ago. I had told her that $400 was all that I had to gamble and that was what it would be. The rollers on this one are there and still pliable but do have some small 1/2 inch cracks but only way to know if they are going to fly apart is to hook it up and start mowing.

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paul

11-26-2001 18:08:22

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Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to john2510-3020, 11-26-2001 16:07:22

Probably not worth it without the rollers on it. They don't like being outside all year, and are the expensive part of the machine. Not sure what you expected for $50.....

I like my 1209, works fine for 2 years now, was in better shape than yours to start with! Only thing with mine is I pick up way too many rocks with it, go through a lot of sections & guards, not sure what I'm doing wrong on that.

--->Paul

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Jerry D in NC

11-27-2001 03:43:19

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Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to paul, 11-26-2001 18:08:22

Paul, I did not realize that you had the 1209. I will be pulling mine probably with the Ford 2000 and I understand that is enough horse power. Are you pulling yours with the 961? One of the complaints I have heard about the 120X series is that you have to mow slow. I am wondering if that is less than a regular sickle bar or equal to. I know you have used both so what is your opinion.

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paul

11-28-2001 18:26:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Jerry D in NC, 11-27-2001 03:43:19

I have pulled it with the 960, but 9' is a load for it, & my pto cluch is starting to go. So mostly I use the Ford 7700 - 85 hp.

I would say the cutting speed is about the same, both depend on the sickle to do the cutting. The 1209 plugs up a lot less than a sickle bar, so that is faster - however, when the 1209 plugs, it takes longer to clean it out - so back to about the same.

I certainly have better alfalfa in the barn after buying the 1209, but I use the sickle bar a lot for uneven ground by the road & drainage ditches, and misc cutting.

--->Paul

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Tim(nj)

11-26-2001 20:42:10

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Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to paul, 11-26-2001 18:08:22

Paul, I have a 1209, and don't have much trouble with it, rocks or otherwise. We always ran the sickle mower with the points up a little so it'd slide up over rocks. I can't remember for sure, but there may be a way to change the cutterbar angle on the 1209. I'll have to get the tech manual out (how 'bout that, when I bought it, I got an owner's manual, a parts manual, AND a tech manual from previous owner). Another thought: Maybe the springs are set too tight and the head isn't floating? How's the wear on the skid plates?

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paul

11-28-2001 18:45:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Tim(nj), 11-26-2001 20:42:10

I bought an operators manual for mine, but it's a little thin on specifics. Mine is the older style with 2 lift cylinders. When I brought it home it seemed to lift pretty high, now it doesn't seem to lift very high at all, esp the right (far) side. I suppose oil passing by, or are these the fabled phased cylinders? I don't know much about hydraulics...

--->Paul

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Jerry D in NC

11-27-2001 03:47:08

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Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Tim(nj), 11-26-2001 20:42:10

Tim, You got the Tech Manual. How good is it. I am an idiot about having the manual for everything I own so that will be one of the first purchases I make but I was wondering about the Tech manual.

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john2510-3020

11-26-2001 19:20:32

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Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to paul, 11-26-2001 18:08:22

to tell you the truth paul, i didnt expect much!!! i really more or less knew what i was getting in to but its hard for to pass up a deal specially if i think i can use it. i was more or less in a bind and needed something and i found this thought hey...it'll work long enough to mow a couple hundered acers. well it did work....eventually....hey paul would you like to buy my 1207 so you could have 2 mowers???:) i wasnt trying to get things going here just stating my opion. hey also i have ne3ver really talked to you before and from what i have read yousound like a fairly knowlegdable person. email me sometime so we could chat.
talk to ya late and have a nice nite!!
john

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Jerry D in NC

11-27-2001 03:51:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to john2510-3020, 11-26-2001 19:20:32

John, Two things, first Paul is a fine fellow. Went out of his way to help me a couple of times and I can not thank him enough. Second, this mower has the type hitch were you bolt a piece on to the tractor drawbar that has a pin sticking up and the mower lowers a ball type hitch down on it. They are having a hard time finding the part that bolts to the tractor and I was wondering if you might want to part with yours if available.

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paul

11-28-2001 18:32:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Jerry D in NC, 11-27-2001 03:51:38

I saw a very similar hitch on a older style Case (or Case-International?) round baler one time. If you can't find a green one, you might want to check out the red place just for kicks. No idea if it would be the same dimensions, but a thought.

Also some salvage yards specialize in hay equipment, eventually something would turn up?

--->Paul

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john2510-3020

11-27-2001 16:42:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New owner of JD 1207 in reply to Jerry D in NC, 11-27-2001 03:51:38

jerry, i have never talked to paul but from what i read he seems to be a fine fellow. on the 1207 when i bought mine it came with a BUNCH of parts i still have them but never went through them if you would like i could go out to the farm tomorrow and look? i wasnt trying to make you think twice about buying it. whne mine mowed it mowed great but was kinda slow. but i guess with something 20-25 years old you bout have to mow slow. i thought about fixing mine up(new shields paint decals etc) and then selling it. im sure the 1207 will do you perfect for what you where useing. you shouldnt have a problem over powering it thats for sure!!! matter of fact theres a 1209 up at the dealer in town i was looking pretty heavy at. it looks new one owner and has only mowed around 20 acers a year and for the past 5 or 6 years has been setting in a barn. the reel hardly has the piant wore off of it! i dont really need another mower but this one looked good and im a sucker for prices like this one(dealer wants 1000) i have contacted the guy and the only thing he said it needed was probly new gear lub and sections. i have been looking at it for about 3 weeks now and cant decide weather i need it or not. but getting another mower leads to another thing..... A TRACTOR!!! so if i can just talk her into it and convince her it WILL increase capacity i may own this machine in a few days... ill try and keep yall posted.
john

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