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Knots hanging on billhook

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Tom

11-07-2001 20:10:40




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Let's have a discussion about knots hanging on billhook. I have been seeing a lot of problems with this lately,most of the time to fix ot just loosen the tension at the twine holder or sharpen the knife but I have one now that is eating my lunch and I have to go out on a international in the morning any discussion might help.




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Tom

11-08-2001 19:50:06




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
Well I think I may have found the problem,the billhook has a small notch in it and it might be catching the twine and the pinion gear that drives the billhook is worn enough that you can wiggle the billhook and when it turns it may not be straight in line enough for the wiper arm to come across perfectly straight and is not pulling the twine off. Also on the international I found that the twine was not getting into the groove after the billhook tied it and then it could not pull off the billhook since the billhook is at a angle the twine has to come through the groove to be pulled off by the next charge of hay I told him to just junk it and go buy a NEW Holland. Thanks for all the help and discussion

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TomH

11-08-2001 16:38:57




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
I think the others covered it. In my experience there are four things that have to be right per the owner's manual 1) twine tension 2) knife sharp 3) knife position 4) disc timing



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Jerry D in NC

11-08-2001 18:18:20




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 Re: Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to TomH, 11-08-2001 16:38:57  
Don't forget to check the twine fingers too. Had that one bite me in the levi's this year. Please let us know what the problem turns out to be



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TomH

11-08-2001 16:38:36




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
I think the others covered it. In my experience there are four things that have to be right per the owner's manual 1) twine tension 2) knife sharp 3) knife position 4) disc timing



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RickB.

11-08-2001 15:33:57




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
I started chasing square balers this past year, it went pretty well, but there were a couple of lessons I had to learn the old fashioned way. After you check/adjust the items already mentioned, check to see the knife arm is clearing the end of the billhook by 3/8" to 1/2" when the knife arm is at its furthest travel. Hold the arm back against the cam and measure (or eyeball) between the halfmoon edge of the knifearm and the fixed jaw of the b'hook. Knifearms are malleable iron and can be bent to meet this spec, as well as rubbing the back of the billhook as it sweeps by. This will accomplish the same thing as re-riveting the knife, just much easier. I'll just say this adjustment is now one I check EVERY time.

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dave(ne)

11-08-2001 07:02:54




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
I've had a case were the tension was set properly and the wiper arm was correct and the knife was sharp but knot still hangin up. I ground rivits off the knife and moved it forward about a quarter of an inch so the twine would get cut sooner. Worked like a champ! Has only missed 1-2 ties in the last 4000.



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Jerry D in NC

11-08-2001 03:11:51




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
Be sure to check the billhook tension. If that tongue is too tight it will hang on too it.



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Fudd@Work

11-07-2001 22:30:25




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 Re: Knots hanging on billhook in reply to Tom, 11-07-2001 20:10:40  
I would say that when the arm with the knife comes across, it is not lined up with the billhook correctly and not wiping the knot off the billhook. The notch in the wiper arm should follow the billhook all the way across. Good luck.



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