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When using a planter what prep work do I need to do?

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Ron

09-20-2001 00:41:51




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Is using a disc enough? do I need to harrow the ground after disking? what do you suggest? Thank you,
Ron




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Dick Davis

09-20-2001 03:38:13




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 Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to Ron, 09-20-2001 00:41:51  
Need some more information. What is in the field now? What crop are you planting? What type planter? Where are you located? If the field has soybean stubble, you can probably get by with a heavy disking / harrowing and then planting corn with an old row planter. But if the existing is grass or alfalfa you will need to plow before you disk/harrow to get rid of the grass clods and a good seed bed. If you are planting with a "no-till" planter and apply the proper herbicides, both now and when the seed emerges, you can plant directly into about anything. Tell us more and we will give you lots of cheap advice. Dick

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Ron

09-20-2001 10:06:17




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 Re: Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to Dick Davis, 09-20-2001 03:38:13  
The field is grass, some weeds. I live near Tulsa Oklahoma. Will most likely be planting corn.
So will I plow first, Harrow it, disc and then plant? or will I harrow again after I disc to get a smoother ground for the old planter. I do not have the planter yet but I am looking at one at this time. It is a two row planter with several different size plates. However it does not have fertilizer boxes. Should I pass on it and get one with fertilizer boxes?
Thank you for your help,
Ron

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Dave in Mo

09-21-2001 04:54:44




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 Re: Re: Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to Ron, 09-20-2001 10:06:17  
Ron, we plow in March to keep winter erosion to a minimum. Then, a month or so later we disc the clods. Then in mid April we disc again and plant. I use an old JD 2 row lister planter. It had no fertilizer boxes but still had the brackets. I made a long wooded box tapered on the bottom with two 3/4" dia clear hoses from the hardware store. Each tube is directed down in front of the seed chute. When I'm ready to start on a row, I pull out a slip sheet to start the 12-12-12 flowing down the tubes and then move forward. It's worked for the last three years. and is a lot better than broadcast because I can direct the fertilizer directly where it need to be. I don't want to encourage the weeds between the rows and I use about 1/4 as much to start with at $5-$6 for a 50 lb bag. Don't be afraid to rig up your own fertilizer unit. It's not rocket science and if a little spills at the end of each row, so what? Last year,I even managed to rig up an agitator driven off the trailing wheel shaft so it continuusly stirs the pellets, similar to the type in lawn spreaders.

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Burrhead

09-21-2001 16:09:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to Dave in Mo, 09-21-2001 04:54:44  
That's right. With broadcast fertilizing in row crops you are putting more fertilizer on grass and weeds than on the crop.

I never saw anybody broadcast fertilizer in row crops and they still have weed and grass problems. I can only imagine what problems a feller would have with fertilizing the weeds.

They may be trying to see if corn will eventually choke out cockleburrs and cow itch. I know it won't choke out johnson and bermuda grasses.

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paul

09-20-2001 18:43:34




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 Re: Re: Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to Ron, 09-20-2001 10:06:17  
'Here' in Minnesota it is best to plow in fall before freeze up, let the ground mellow over winter, then harrow, disk, & harrow. (There are several variations on this tho, none are 'wrong'. You want to end up with a nice level seedbed.)

If you plow in spring (if you have hilly land you might not want the winter erosion) it is often wise to harrow it within a few hours to break up the clods before they dry into bricks. Then if you catch a rain, and disk it as it dries out again, & probably harrow it before planting.

You folks know, if you aren't using chemicals, harrow the corn again just as it pokes out of the ground, kills off the sprouting weeds & doesn't hurt the corn if you don't drive on it & angle the harrow back a bit...

Fertilizer: If you are the same guy planting wheat & rye, those bennifit from fertilizer too. You might want to look into a braodcast spreader of some kind. The spinners for seed may work, but often pack up & don't 'take it'. There are spinners that do work, or old Van Brunt type drop spreaders around sometimes... 'Here' you can rent a broadcast spreader from the ag coop for a couple bucks an acre & pull it with your tractor, or have them spread it also.

--->Paul

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Dick Davis

09-21-2001 03:49:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: When using a planter what prep work do I need to do? in reply to paul, 09-20-2001 18:43:34  
Sounds to me like plowing is the way to go to get your field into production, a disk will not do a good job of soil preparation. Talk to some old time locals for the best time to plow -fall or spring. Most farmers pulled a section of drag(harrow) behind there moldboard plows to knock down the clods. The problem is plowing loosens the soil (good thing for seed gerimination)then ever other trip disk/harrow/plant all pack the soil back down, so those trips should be minimized. I'm with Paul broadcast the fertilizer. The first thing to corroide on planters was the fertilizer attachments I wouldn't bother with them as calibration can be difficult. Co-Op spreaders make a lot of sense. You should be having a lot of fun with your operation. Let us know how it turned out.

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