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NH 273 square bales-irregular length

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lee

08-31-2001 00:47:09




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My 273 works very well, but I cannot get bales to come out a uniform length. Same hay, at the same time, fed the same way, produces bales that vary in length by as much as 4 to 6". ( Makes piling a nightmare!!) I asked the dealer about building up the trip arm to make a more definite squarish trip point, as it has some curve that I assume is due to wear.
He said not to, and sold me an overpriced (and not needed) small ridged wheel that the trip arm rides on as the bale passes down the chamber(driven by the big toothed wheel running on the top of the bales) . Now I get the " don't know--don't care--you figgure it out response. I'm sure some of you know what is the cause.....so please clue me in. Thanks to any & all who will take the time to help me out!!!!! !!!!! !!! {{{Special request to Burrhead...I have another question that I know you can answer--is there an e-mail that I could reach you??

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Warren

09-04-2001 12:49:45




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
Lee,

Don't be so quick to criticize the dealer. He was possibly trying to solve the problem you presented as best he could. Without him actually seeing the baler and the condition it is in, he may have been trying to solve the problem with what he felt was a logical place to start. It may very well need that wheel which drives the arm.

The best way to get a uniform bale length is to keep the windrow very dry and uniform, the bales dense, and the engine pto at the recommended speed. Keep in mind that once the arm is tripped, the baler makes one more cycle before the needles engage - if a big slug is going in at the last plunger cycle, you will have a longer bale. If the chamber is fairly empty, the bale will be shorter. If you are baling very short bales, the effect will be enhanced, and if the bales are long, the effect will be lessened. As a test, break a bunch of the bales and check to see if each of the slices are about the same size - if they vary much in width, you do not have a uniform slice and will not have a uniform bale length.
By the way, I don't think 4-6" difference between the shortest and longest bales is much difference at all for hay.
Good luck.

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Garidgerunner

09-03-2001 02:54:34




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
I owned a NH 268. It had a problem with iregular bales and not tying. After I traded it, the man who brought it, disassmbled the the pto clutch and found 3 of the 4 holes in the clutch plate missing. After replacement of the clutch plate, it baled a lot better. 1 dealer said this was a common problem.



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Bill B

08-31-2001 20:19:18




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
Hi, To get uniform bails you must have a big enough windrow to keep the chanber full in combination with the speed. If the windrow varys in size the bails are going to vary, Not enough hay loose bales, too much bricks on the long side. If your bailer has a measuring wheel that drives small teeth like my JD337 has look for worn teeth. Bill



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Cliff Neubauer

08-31-2001 17:08:45




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
We just replaced that curved arm on our 310, it was worn enough that it would vibrate down in light hay and make 5-6' bales, worked alright in heavy hay though. After replacing the arm and the little gear you got it works fine.



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Jerry D in NC

08-31-2001 11:24:32




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
A quick question, Are the bales heavy on the bottom and light on the top. If that is the case then the spiked tooth wheel that drives the knotter trip does not get a firm bite into the bale and it kinda skids along until it catches and rolls on. This is frequently caused by not feeding enough hay into the baler either by going too slow or having too small a windrow.



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Dan

08-31-2001 06:53:35




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 Re: NH 273 square bales-irregular length in reply to lee , 08-31-2001 00:47:09  
you may have already checked, but make sure the bolt on the foreward end of the arm is tight. otherwise if your feeding it the same I would replace the arm. it may be sprung a little. I have found that most NH parts in our part of the country are not as over priced as IH or JD but that may vary by dealer. Do you have an operator's manual? they really help on problems



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