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NH 66 BALER

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JDHUMP

08-12-2001 22:34:49




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I know we have probably been through this before but lets do it again!!! I can bale about 20 bale and then 2 will be broken. Then I can Bale all the way around the field to where the broken bales are and break 2 more. I have tried so many adjustment on the knotters I think Im going to explode!!!!! !!! Would it be smart of me to overhaul the knotter assembly? Any suggestions would be helpfull. JDHUMP

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B.C.

08-15-2001 13:51:04




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 Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to JDHUMP, 08-12-2001 22:34:49  
I too once had a problem like this. The solution was the purchase of a NH 68 and to use the 66 as a parts source.

It may appear to ba a cop-out to those individuals who can get along with a 66 but I have never regretted it.



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JDHUMP

08-15-2001 21:45:09




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 Re: Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to B.C., 08-15-2001 13:51:04  
B.C. There is not any 68's for sale in my area that I know of, and believe me I would Know if there was. So, What do you suggest now??? JDHUMP



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Jerry D in NC

08-16-2001 03:13:27




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to JDHUMP, 08-15-2001 21:45:09  
You say the knot is breaking. Can you be a little bit more descriptive. Is it pulling apart or is the twine breaking 6" from the knot? Does the hay vary in moisture at that place in the field?

Jerry



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JDHUMP

08-16-2001 17:26:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to Jerry D in NC, 08-16-2001 03:13:27  
Jerry, The moisture is pretty constant all around the field. The twine is not breaking at all. What it is doing is this, either the knot pulls apart or it only ties on one end of the twine and it is always on the same side. No problems with the other knotter. JDHUMP



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Jerry D in NC

08-16-2001 18:21:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to JDHUMP, 08-16-2001 17:26:19  
JDH, I saw the same problem this spring an a friend's JD baler and we never did figure out what was causing it. Scratched our head and other parts of the anatomy and finally called in a "real" baler mechanic. He adjusted the twine fingers back to where they were supposed to be and that thing never missed another bale. The twine fingers were only off a 1/4 of an inch but it did not push the twine against the billhook tight enough and it would slip off during the tieing process. Just a thought, check the twine fingers to spec.

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PDX

08-21-2001 21:47:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH 66 BALER in reply to Jerry D in NC, 08-16-2001 18:21:36  
JDHump, Jerry's suggestion about the twine finger adjustment is a good one. But the wording of your original post makes it sound like you are missing knots two at a time. If this is the case, we need to examine what types of malfunctions can cause a miss tie on consecutive bales. The only knotter component that can effect two knots with one malfunction is the twine disc/twine holder. (I am not familiar with NH terminology, so I will use Freeman names for knotter components) If the twine is not delivered to the twine disc properly, the twine will not be held in position for the bill hook trigger to capture it, resulting in a miss tie. On the very next knotter cycle, even if the twine disc gets the twine, there will be no twine in the holder (due to the improper twine delivery on the previous tie), and hence a second knot will miss. So, a single malfunction has caused two knots to miss. The most common cure for this is to be sure the needle is passing close enough to the twine disc. On a Freeman baler that means about 1/8 to 1/4 inch clearance. The twine finger may also need to be adjusted. By the way, if this is your problem, the second missed bale should have a loose twine hanging on it that is long enough to go around the bale about 1 1/2 times. If each bale has its own broken twine your problem is something else. Hope this helps.

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