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Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance)

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Jeff

02-26-1999 04:28:56




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What would be a good used bailer for 10 acres of hay? Want to make the small square bails. What can one expect to pay for one? Thanks




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C.C.

03-01-1999 17:58:32




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 Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Jeff, 02-26-1999 04:28:56  
Sorry for the long post but I just went through the same thing. I live in east Kentucky and everything here seems to be more expensive, but hey I'll take what I can get. I'm looking to take care of about 10 acres of hay this year and hopefully 15 to 20 next. I found a MF model 12 for a $1000. I've been told(through this message board and by others) that this was a decent baler. The only problem could be the knotter, but I've got a MF dealer nearby who says he can fix it relatively cheap if needed. Most people say that if your going to buy an older baler, buy JD. 14T's and 24T's are apparently good balers, or at least everybody on this board says so. And their cheap, well under a thousand. If your looking to buy newer(Late 70's, 80's, or newer), then but a New Holland. I found a NH 311 for $4200, but that was more than I was looking to spend. I would also say stay away from older NH(66's and so on). They breakdown a lot and are expensive to fix. Whatever you buy, be sure you have a good dearler nearby who can provide service, you'll more than likely need it. Good Luck. Casey

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Woodbeef

02-28-1999 07:02:16




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 Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Jeff, 02-26-1999 04:28:56  
I was in the same predicament myself last year,for my 75 acres of hay.I looked around and found a good IH 430 for $250 Cdn. It worked great,even after sitting for 5 years in a drive shed. The few parts that I have needed(pick-up tines,and twine tension springs) were reasonable.The main thing is to keep it well greased.There are plenty of old Massey 9s & 10s around here too.A neighbor just bought two of them that both work for $ 600 Cdn.Most of the older N/H balers around here have problems with keeping them working correctly.Not many J/D balers around at all.

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Dennis H.

02-28-1999 11:32:31




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 Re: Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Woodbeef, 02-28-1999 07:02:16  
I haven't found anyone, including the MF dealers, who had anything good to say about the MF 9 or 10 baler. One did say he thought the 9 was a little better of a baler but not much. I had a 10, but that is a long story. Let's just say that either the JD or NH are in a different class and after using both of them I'd say the rest came to personal preference and price. Neither make will disappoint you, and yes, the older NH with the wad boards can be a problem. I wouldn't try to use them hard in thick heavy hay, they were made to handle about 40 bales to the acre. I get better than 100 bales to the acre and use an old 66 Hayliner, but I don't get in a hurry and could walk faster than my ground speed. I would NEVER try to operate a custom baleing service with it, but I have almost $100 invested in it counting the purchase price of $35 at auction...

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Brian C.

03-01-1999 20:25:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Dennis H., 02-28-1999 11:32:31  
IMO, Deere leads in parts support and price. The post-wadboard NH seem to bale a skoosh better. If you wind up with a wadboard, either take it easy or learn how to drink.



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Brian C.

02-26-1999 11:17:05




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 Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Jeff, 02-26-1999 04:28:56  
I've used a John Deere 14T and a New Holland 77 in that kind of situation. Sold the Deere when we moved, then bought the NH. If you're lucky and you have somebody with you that can spot the big trouble spots, 500 to 700 bucks should get you running reliably.
Stay away from NH wadboard types. Keep the knife sharp and the knotters clean and greased.
I've never heard anything good about Fords, and where would you get Oliver or AC parts these days? I knew people that had IH rigs, and the parts were awfully expensive.

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Bazooka

02-27-1999 17:50:12




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 Re: Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Brian C., 02-26-1999 11:17:05  
I would agree with Brian C. There are alot of 14T's out there and they are alot simpler to time if the need arises. the knotters are virtually the same as what you'd find on a new one today. Make sure you check the slip clutch operation and the shaft on the gearbox end for excessive wear. also roll the plunger all the way forward and move the plungerhead back and forth and up and down for excessive play this can be adjusted out. In my area they go for $150 to $500.

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Smiley

02-26-1999 04:47:08




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 Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Jeff, 02-26-1999 04:28:56  
either NH or JD.



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Smiley

02-26-1999 04:45:41




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 Re: Need Advise On Buying A Bailer (Ok Experts Here's Your Chance) in reply to Jeff, 02-26-1999 04:28:56  
I would say a NH and second a JD.



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