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JDHUMP

06-16-2001 20:56:16




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Hey guys, got couple of questions for you. Can I rake my hay , with a side delivery rake, going across the hay that I mowed? 90deg. to the direction that I mowed. Also, can anyone give me some reasons for needles to break on a New Holland 66 baler? *(&%$&^%#^needles are expensive to replace on this model of baler!!!!! ! Thanks in advance... JDHUMP




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mike (oh)

06-24-2001 19:54:42




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
i also have a nh 66 baler. a operaters manuel is something that would be very helpful to you. also if your plunger hit your neddles the plunger safety latch should of stopped the plunger from hitting the neddles. check to see if the safety latch is working and adusted correctly. i'm having trouble with neddles staying in home possition, some say it maybe my knoter break needs tightend. have u had that problem? good luck to you.

micheal

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JDHUMP

06-24-2001 22:35:54




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 Re: Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to mike (oh), 06-24-2001 19:54:42  
I have another question on the NH 66 baler. It will bale about 8 bales and then I get a broken bale. Then it goes back to baling correctly. It always is the same side that doesnt get tied. When looking at the twine, there is a partial knot on one end of the twine. Any ideas!!!!



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Mike (OH)

06-25-2001 18:41:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-24-2001 22:35:54  
Book says possible cause twine fingers too far back from needle slot. Too much clearance between twine fingers and needles.

Plunger dogs not entering bale chamber.

Twine disc timing.

Bill hook tongue fails to open wide enough.

Bent bill hook tongue.

I would not try to adjust any of that until you have a operating instructions book. Alot of these procedures to complicated to explain like this. Any new holland dealer should be able to get you a book. Sorry I couldn't help more good luck.

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smirkey

06-19-2001 12:10:43




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
regarding the needles. make sure your drive chains are snug. you can get chain bounce and throw out the timing enough to hit the needles. also check the brakes on the knotter. should be adjusted tighter than looser. also read the manual on how to set timinmg. its easy, do it once, it should be correct for a long time. also, i dont want to hurt your feelings, but new holland made much better balers than the 66. the "wad board" is just too light and fragile for modern hay making. i think any other older model can do a better job. i like the 68 or 69. their feweder design make a nicely shaped bale.

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Charlie

06-18-2001 16:52:32




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
Broken needles can be due to running the baler too fast. I don't know about the NH but my IH is susposed to run at 60 - 70 strokes per minute.



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paul

06-17-2001 16:57:10




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
Exactly what the other 2 said - best is to rake the same direction you cut, but if it's dry & long stemmed you can go any direction.

Time the baler. Get the manual, it's easy to do, but very hard to explain without pictures/ diagrams. As a baler wears, sometimes the timing changes a bit I hear....

We have welded needles on our baler, took it to a shop, they had jigs already to put the needles in & came out as good as new.

--->Paul

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B.C.

06-17-2001 10:14:10




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
Like the guy said, any which way if it's dry, but either the same or 180 from the mowing direction seems to work best.

Up where I came from, rocks got a lot of needles. But you could have timing problems or maybe tried to bale a stump or something.

Needles can be welded or brazed and still give acceptable life.

If you don't have the NH op manual, you should get it. Will explain about timing, clearances, etc.

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sammy the RED

06-16-2001 21:01:37




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 Re: Rake and Baler Question in reply to JDHUMP, 06-16-2001 20:56:16  
You can rake it any way you want, if its dry enough. The best way is to rake it the way it was mowed.
Sounds like your baler is out of time.



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