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Rob Mo.

05-23-2001 14:19:42




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The local newspaper had an add in it for a New Holland 66 baler & 2 3-point rakes. I called the party who had placed the add & got some information. The baler had a v-twin engine on it that can be changed to a pto driven. He tells me that the engine can be sold for several hundred dollars & I don't much about what older engines are worth. Can somebody give me a general idea what it could possibly be worth? He tells me $700 for the whole package. I think it is a deal, but not sure. Is it a deal or am I going to get ripped off?

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Scott

05-23-2001 21:43:35




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 Re: New Holland Model 66 in reply to Rob Mo., 05-23-2001 14:19:42  
Agree with all that Burrhead said. But for your info ill add this. Year ago bought a 65 N.H. pto drive baler for 200.00 put 250.00 into it, new plunger bearings, pickup fingers, angle iron on the delivery shoot, brass bushings on the opposite end of the knife on the knotters. Made some adjustments here and there, checked settings and timings by hand. Ran the new parts in. Bales like a champ so far. just my two cents. good luck

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Burrhead

05-23-2001 16:53:20




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 Re: New Holland Model 66 in reply to Rob Mo., 05-23-2001 14:19:42  
It's got a 2cyl Wisconsin alright but it's not a V block unless somebody has upgraded it. That Wisconsin is a PITA to operate.

You can convert it over to pto drive and I would do that ASAP if I bought it. If you can't find a used pto drive line cheap tho a new shaft would be worth more than all the eqipment he has combined.

I don't want to sound like a smart alec but I think Mr Haney is trying to get to you Olivah.

The 66 is a good baler if it's not wore out or rusted down.

If you go to look at it, trip the tie trip and roll the plunger all the way to the back of the stroke, now reach in through the feeder tines and shake the plunger. If the plunger moves over 1/8" side to side or 1/4" up and down he has'nt been baling with it anyways, so don't pay any attention to what he says about baling 5,000 bales last year with it and how pretty the 75# bales were.

Now go back and check the bill hooks. That's the deal that opens and shuts to make the knots.

In the lips of the bill hook there should be no twine wear groove, and on the other end of the bill hooks the brass roller on the shaft should be smooth and perfectly round.

If it's a wore out twine baler or a wire tie in any shape with a Wisconsin on it I would jump back in the car and keep looking somewhere else for a baler.

As far as the $700 for everything, if the baler and both rakes are in pretty good shape and you're happy with it I still would only offer him $450 tops if the rakes are the same vintage as the baler.

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rem

05-23-2001 16:40:43




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 Re: New Holland Model 66 in reply to Rob Mo., 05-23-2001 14:19:42  
Hi,
A good deal depends on the condition of the baler. Check the wood guides on the plunger and look for wear on the bill hooks of the knotter. On a baler that old you should see grooves on the bill hooks. If the grooves are deep the hook will be apt to break. Also, ask to see one or more of the bales that has been tied.Does it look nice and square and does the cut side look like the knife has been cutting good against the striker bar. If all three pieces of machinery are in good/better shape then 700 appears to be fair. If the baler has not been housed then the price is too much in my book.

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Rob Mo.

05-23-2001 21:00:07




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 Re: Re: New Holland Model 66 in reply to rem, 05-23-2001 16:40:43  
Let's dicuss rakes. Well, who all made a 3-points rake back in the day? I know massey furgoson did, but can't think of anyone else at the time. I tried talking him out of just buying a rake, but he wouldn't deal. I figured that a rake that has been welded back together & having another just for parts would tell my, he is hard on equiptment. I know for sure that you can't go in reverse with one. I thought around $150 would be a cheap buy for something that well used.

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Burrhead

05-24-2001 09:06:36




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 Re: Re: Re: New Holland Model 66 in reply to Rob Mo., 05-23-2001 21:00:07  
In my neck of the woods you could get a NH, Ford, JD, and Bushhog brand rake and tedders. There was another one that was made in Canada but I can't remember the brand name.

I never saw one around here but I think New Idea made them too.

The NH was bad about wearing out the hub bushings if you did'nt keep it greased regularly and/or breaking the rachet wheel hubs that drive the rake.

The Bushhog was bad to wear out just like the NH because they were made so much alike.

The Dearborn/Ford was a 3 pt hitch pto drive and there was virtually no way to keep the ground speed in the right relation to the rake speed on turns and on rough ground. The good point about it was that you could lift it and back into tight spots for the baler and move the hay out farther for the windrow with it.

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