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Bgee

05-20-2001 09:02:02




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Baler was working fine, 97 bales then all of a sudden the plunger hits the plunger safety stop and sheers the flywheel shear pin. The needles hadn't returned all the way home, or returned home then fell back down, not sure. Needle brake seems to be ok. Not the first time this has happened, any suggestions? Thanks, Bgee




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wally

07-16-2002 21:26:52




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
how do you know how much to tighten up the knotter brake? because this sure sounds like my problem. I'm getting a lot of shear pins.



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Russ

05-23-2001 12:22:16




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
I had the same thing happen to me after buying a well used 24T. The needles would occasionally stall before completing the tying cycle. I tried all the standard adjustments and tests to no avail. The problem got progressively worse suggesting a continuing wear problem. What finally solved the problem was replacing the knotter clutch ring and the roller that travels inside it. The shoulder that the roller catches on had been worn to the point that the ring would lose it and the knotter assembly would fail to make the complete cycle and stall. Be careful not to lose the timing while servicing these parts!!!

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Bgee

05-24-2001 04:24:59




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 Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Russ, 05-23-2001 12:22:16  
Russ, sounds like you may be right, because I don't think that the needles are returing all the way home then falling back down, which would indicate a brake problem. I think they are not returning all the way home after a tying cycle.I'll look into your suggestion further. What timing are you talking about? Thanks



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Russ

05-24-2001 08:57:11




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-24-2001 04:24:59  
The timing I am referring to is the relationship between the plunger and the needles/knotter tying cycle. You should not have any problem if all you do is replace the clutch ring and associated parts. However, to be on the safe side make sure the needles and knotters are in home position and the plunger is retracted. After you have completed the repairs trip the bale measuring arm and operate the baler by hand through the complete tying cycle so that you are sure the timing is still OK before you put tractor power to it. If you do not have an operator's manual the JD part number is OM-E38936.

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Bgee

05-24-2001 09:38:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Russ, 05-24-2001 08:57:11  
Russ, I do have a manual and am familiar with this timing procedure. Thanks for your and everyone elses help.



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Randy

05-23-2001 04:25:00




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
Checking the brake pads is a good ideal. Check the manual, and use a hanging type scale to measure the resistence. Good luck.



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Bgee

05-21-2001 04:40:35




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
Thanks guys, I'll look into all your suggestions.



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duffy

05-21-2001 00:06:08




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
There is a shear pin in the rod that connects the needles and the clutch.What you described is what happens when this pin breaks.I ran out of pins so started using drywall nails. They break too just like the pins.



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Fudd@Work

05-20-2001 20:54:47




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
Something like that happened 2 years ago to my 14T. I can't remember for sure but it had something to do with keeping the knotter assembly in the home position, maybe a broken spring on a roller arm. Check what keeps yours in the home position and you will probably find the problem. Good luck. Oh, that sets you up in your seat when the plunger hits the stop doesn't it!



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ErnieD

05-20-2001 16:00:50




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
Were you at RPM? Running too slow during a knotter cycle will do it. Check your basic timing all through the machine, chain slop from a loose chain can do you in. Lastly measure the safety stop and needle clearance.



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Charlie

05-20-2001 15:51:13




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 Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-20-2001 09:02:02  
Is there a shear bolt for the clutch that runs the needles.



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jerrya in Indiana

05-22-2001 22:51:40




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 Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Charlie, 05-20-2001 15:51:13  
Also might not hurt yo look at the brake pads maybe even tighten up that tension the needles have to stay home after tieing cycle.Right?



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jerrya in Indiana

05-22-2001 22:51:17




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 Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Charlie, 05-20-2001 15:51:13  
Also might not hurt yo look at the brake pads maybe even tighten up that tension the needles have to stay home after tieing cycle.Right?



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Bgee

05-23-2001 04:20:46




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to jerrya in Indiana, 05-22-2001 22:51:17  
Brake Pads appear to be about 1/8" thick. I checked timing of plunger and needles and is within the specs that the owners manual requires.
Operating by hand, the needles always return home after tying cycle. I'm thinking about replacing and adjusting the brake pads, just to eliminate that being a possibility.



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ErnieD

05-23-2001 16:52:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 24t baler in reply to Bgee, 05-23-2001 04:20:46  
You don't need to replace the pads, just tighten them up for a fiar drag. You don't want the needle to drift by gravity.



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