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What gear to use for cultivator...?

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jt

05-17-2001 13:20:56




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I have a 1958 MF50. I plan to use a 6.5 foot wide 6 bottom cultivator and a 5 foot bush hog. What gear range (hi/low) and gear should I use for these and at what RPM? Any general rules of thumb to follow? I'm new to all this so any pointers on using implements would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!




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jt

05-21-2001 10:28:33




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 Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to jt, 05-17-2001 13:20:56  
Thanks for all the info!
I see I stirred up some old (and funny) memories too!
- jt



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Charlie

05-18-2001 16:29:29




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 Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to jt, 05-17-2001 13:20:56  
Just wanted to add to the cultivating experiences - I found out cultivating with a tractor with steel wheels can kick up a lot of dust if the field is very dry. Discovered that while cultivating with my F14. The dirt got on the inside of the wheel and created a constant cloud. Just one of many reasons why no one misses them.



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paul

05-18-2001 13:15:52




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 Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to jt, 05-17-2001 13:20:56  
As the other said, for mowing you want to run at pto speed - near full throttle usually if you don't have a tach. I'd start in your slowest gear, get comfortable, and move up from there - probably always be in a slower gear. (For safety, does your tractor have independent pto???? If not, GET an overrunning pto adaptor. For more info, search the archives for 'over running pto'.)

I really enjoy the row cultivator stories - relate to some of them. :) However, JT, I don't think you quite said it right - cultivators don't have 'bottoms', they have 'shanks' if they are a field cultivator that stirs up all the soil, or 'rows' if they are a row crop cultivator to weed between rows of a growing crop. (Plows have 'bottoms'.)

I suspect you meant you have a small field cultivator with 6 shanks on it - you really can't have a 6 row cultivator only 6.5' wide. :)

So, for this implement, you might as well start out slow as well. eventually you want to go about 3-5 mph. This will depend on how good your tractor handles it, what type of soil you have, how many/ how big the rocks are, and how rough the ground is under you.

Basically you want to get done as quick as you can, without shaking you or the tractor & implement apart, or tearing it up on rocks/ potholes.

If your tractor is diesel, you want to run close to full throttle most of the time & adjust speed with the gears. (Best for engine & ecconomy.) If your tractor is gas, you want to be about 3/4 throttle when that works, or near full for pto work.

--->Paul

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F14

05-17-2001 15:14:13




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 Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to jt, 05-17-2001 13:20:56  
The bush hog is easy...run the engine at PTO rated RPM (should be marked on the tach, usually full throttle) then pick a range and gear that gives you a comfortable ground speed based on how rough it is, and how thick the stuff you're trying to mow is. As a beginner, slower is better. Wear a logging helmet with ear protectors, bush hogs are loud, and throw stuff.

The cultivator is a bit more difficult. Generally, set engine speed for best fuel economy (say about mid-throttle) and pick a gear that is appropriate. Things to consider when picking the right gear include how tall the crop is (newly emerged corn or beans will require VERY slow ground speed to avoid covering up the plants) how dry/hard/compacted the soil is, what types of shovels you have on the cultivator, how well you can keep it on the row, and other things I've no doubt forgotten in the 30+ years since I last ran a cultivator. Experience is the best teacher, and again, slower is better for a beginner.

If it's a multi row cultivator, there is another consideration: Cultivating with a 4 row cultivator in a field planted with a 4 row planter requires that you be on the 'right' set of rows. The distance between rows is constant, except between the last row of one pass and the first row of the next. Even the best driver varies a little, and if you get off a row and have three rows from one pass of the planter and one row from the next, you're gonna wind up cultivating out part of the crop where the planter wandered a little here and there. Don't ask me how I know this..... .

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Fudd

05-17-2001 17:27:52




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 Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to F14, 05-17-2001 15:14:13  
Hey F14, how do you know this????? Same reason as me:) :)



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sammy the RED

05-17-2001 20:27:53




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 Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to Fudd, 05-17-2001 17:27:52  
And dont fall asleep while cultivating..... Dont ask !



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F14 BTDT, too!

05-18-2001 03:30:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to sammy the RED, 05-17-2001 20:27:53  
Late May or early June in Michigan. Corn about 3" high. Four-row cultivator on a JD-B with the shields on. First gear at half throttle. Rows a quarter of a mile long. Hot, humid and right after lunch. 13 or 14 years old.

Not a good combination ":^( Fortunately, the rough ride as I was going across the rows at a 45o angle woke me up...



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sammy the RED

05-18-2001 07:06:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to F14 BTDT, too!, 05-18-2001 03:30:26  
I was 13 and in Michigan when it happened to me....LOL....Must be the water.



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Charlie

05-18-2001 04:58:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to F14 BTDT, too!, 05-18-2001 03:30:26  
Is your Dad's reaction printable here?



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F14...ROFL!

05-18-2001 07:54:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to Charlie, 05-18-2001 04:58:04  
Not Hardly! If you get up towards St. Johns, and listen carefully, you can probably still hear it echoing...

After learning at his knee for 18 years, I was teaching the Chiefs some new words when I joined the Navy!



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Bayou Dave

05-18-2001 08:39:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to F14...ROFL!, 05-18-2001 07:54:37  
Didn't fall asleep, but had a 6 row behind a 4020 JD. Was cultivating for the land owner on a hill side. Corn was up about 12 inches, no shields, and had to really crowd the up hill rows because the cultivator swung down hill. Long story short, I took out 6 rows about 10 rods long. Worst news, it was right where the land owner could see it from the kitchen window, and driving out of his drive..... .

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Rob Mo.

05-20-2001 16:00:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to Bayou Dave, 05-18-2001 08:39:10  
Got a 900 Ford tractor with a piar of dearborn 2-row cultivators. What gear should I put it in or how any mph should I go?



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paul

05-21-2001 10:07:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to Rob Mo., 05-20-2001 16:00:16  
My 960 would pull a 4 row in 3rd all day long. (5-speed tranny)

When the crop is little - 1st time through - you'll have to go slow. Slow down until you don't harm/ cover up your crop.

After that, go as fast as you want - basically you are controlled by the crop, not the tractor.

--->Paul



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Rob Mo.

05-23-2001 14:27:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What gear to use for cultivator...? in reply to paul, 05-21-2001 10:07:17  
Well, have been faced with a slight problem. Well, I was going to spray the herbicide the day I planted it, but my sprayer booms broke. My corn is about an inch tall & I had to replant 3 rows. How tall the the crop need to be before I can cultivate it. Should I spray it at all?



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