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Wade

03-24-2001 07:26:56




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I'm reclaiming some old fields. I had 15-20 year old growth bulldozed off last Spring. Subsoiling has been recommended. Dang it, I don't have access to one of those!. So now I'm looking and need to know how much subsoiler I need and anything special about the process. What can I pull with 40hp, 43hp, and 71hp? (The 40 is a IH 504, 43 is WD45, 71 is D19) I haven't bought the AC's yet but am very close to it. The 19 also has wheel wieghts and fluid in the tires (9000#). The soil is chirt-rocky, fairly loose.

Also, this is a hilltop/side farm(vineyard in development), locals have recommended turning disc-type plows only, claiming that "flatland plows" will cause difficult hang-ups. I don't have any disc-type plow experience. Any input?

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Wade thanks for the info

03-24-2001 22:51:11




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
The acreage is small. I have lots of tree roots and crud to get out. I think there is an old chisel plow at my parents farm. I'll get it and see what kind of mess I can make.

I'll probably single-shank the areas for grape vines, as they are deeply rooted.



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Levi

03-24-2001 21:13:37




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
I use a single shank subsoiler on my 1963 2000LCG, (32 HP) with no problems. I bought it new from my local tractor shop for $114.00 + tax.
It works GREAT for removing the roots left from clearing land.

May GOD Bless,
LEVI



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Peter

03-24-2001 13:46:32




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
My farm is in Northern Ontario and subsoilers are used because of the heavy clay soil, plowing at the same depth every year will leave your field with a layer of hardpan. I have even heard of dynamite being used to remedy this situation but it doesn't sound like you have that kind of soil, I don't think you need to go to the trouble of using a subsoiler, plowing should be enough. I have seen pictures of subsoilers for the old tractors, I don't think that more than 30 hp was needed to pull them so if you feel that you need one you should probably be able to find one for cheap.

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BFO

03-24-2001 13:04:18




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
25 to 30 HP per tooth is the guideline for subsoilers that I follow. Subsoiling is best done in the fall so that the soil can soak up winter moisture. If you are planting this year, you can get a single tooth, and run it down where your rows are marked. Loosening the soil will allow the vines to establish root systems quicker.



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jp

03-24-2001 12:00:34




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
Sounds like a job that you may want to hire out. Subsoiling (or ripping as I call it) takes a lot of power, power that I don't think you have unless you only pull one shank. You say the dirt is fairly loose, are you sure it needs to be ripped? Dig yourself a pit and check for sure before you go to the expense of ripping. It is the operation that costs the most per acre due to the high fuel and power requirements.

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Steve from Tn

03-24-2001 10:00:32




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 Re: Subsoiling in reply to Wade, 03-24-2001 07:26:56  
Wade, I'm not sure about this. Maybe someone will answer you better. I believe the formula is about 30 hp per tine. You don't necessarily have to subsoil your land just because it has grown up. I have one field that needs subsoiling every year. It doesn't always get it. Take a (maybe 3/8") steel rod and push it into the ground. You can usually tell when you hit a hardpan. I hope this reply is of some value to you.

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Tim(nj)

03-24-2001 13:40:33




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 Re: Re: Subsoiling in reply to Steve from Tn, 03-24-2001 10:00:32  
If you just want to break up compaction near the surface from the clearing operations, a deep chisel plowing (8-10") should do it. 5-shank chisel plows are available fairly reasonable, when equipped with spring shanks they tolerate rocks and roots fairly well, and that D19 would be able to handle a 3-pt 5 shank fairly well at the aforementioned depth.



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