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Rick

02-24-2001 14:43:07




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I only have two acres availeable to plant corn, so I am trying to get the most out of it. I was going to try planting 18 inch rows with my 2 row planter. The 18 inch rows would be just wide enough to get through with my 1 row picker. I will spray for weeds so cultivating is not a problem. Any thoughts on why this wouldn't work?




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Lloyd

03-01-2001 19:20:05




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 Re: narrow rows in reply to Rick, 02-24-2001 14:43:07  
Have you looked at wheel traffic? Will you be able to set your wheels so that you aren't planting in ground that has been packed by your wheels?



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kev@IA

03-01-2001 16:38:10




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 Re: narrow rows in reply to Rick, 02-24-2001 14:43:07  
Saw the posts about twin rows below, trying to find some old Max Emerge 4 rows to do that with.
Rick, if you are still using a 2 row you can get a nice yield bump by going to Max Emerge style plateless units. Old 4 row JD 7000 planters are real cheap and easily rebuilt, If the seed is at the right depth and the right spaceing with good soil contact you can see a real increase in yield, put a set of seed firmers from Schaffert to improve seed placement.
Have used this style planter unit for seed corn planting for over 30 years, if another machine did a better job we would have it because the inbred seed is much tougher to get off to a good start.
And no I do not wear green underware, we have 4 IH red tractors now but JD/Kinze makes a better planter machine, the white is a close 2nd, the new CIH is to new to have a record. Sorry to ramble but thought I could help.
kev

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tim[in]

02-24-2001 22:19:11




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 Re: narrow rows in reply to Rick, 02-24-2001 14:43:07  
first off, are you north of I-70? if i remember right. north of I 70 it will work but south wont bring the yeild difference. secondly you might have to use fungicide. so little air circulation in there ,that funguses,and diseases are a problem .plus when they say it might add a 5% to 10 % increase , they mean in an ideal year with everything right! there are guys still winning yield contests with 36 -38 inch rows!!if your management has gotten you to the cieling on your present row size ,then you can try narrower rows. if not ,then work on the limiting factors where you are at now.one mag had articles on guys using twin rows. it gave them more yield andthe ability to use their present equipment with out switching over to more expensive tools.first make sure your hybrid is right for your soil type ,then work on raising plant populations per acre. then fertility ,water, and heat degree days. good luck.=)

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paul

02-25-2001 10:25:20




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 Re: Re: narrow rows in reply to tim[in], 02-24-2001 22:19:11  
Yea, those twin rows are interesting. They are 4-7 inches apart, in a regular wide row right? ITo really benifit, the twin rows should be metered out to alternat the plants exactly. So, just doubling back with the planter 4 inches over doesn't quite do it.

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Tim(nj)

02-26-2001 17:25:21




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 Re: Re: Re: narrow rows in reply to paul, 02-25-2001 10:25:20  
I was just reading about a guy who plants his cotton in twin rows. He took an old JD 71 unit planter and paired two units off on each row. He devised a way to run both units in a pair from a single drive, and has them geared so that the plates drop alternately. Still not as accurate as a vacuum drop, but he says it worked.



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paul

02-24-2001 17:46:37




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 Re: narrow rows in reply to Rick, 02-24-2001 14:43:07  
Rows used to be 40 inches to let the horses walk through the rows. They have narrowed down to 38, 36, 30, and now 20 inches over the past 50 years. Seems 20 inch rows can yield 5 bu or so per acre over 30 inch, IF the rest of your program is top notch. (Seed, fert, drainage, weed control...)

So, what are you going to use to plant it? Does your planter adjust to 18 inches? Is all the rest of your program up to top yields at wider spacing? What yield population are you going to plant at - you really won't add many more seeds per acre even on narrow rows. Only a couple % if I remember right.

If you have ANY lodging problems or harvest difficulty, you could lose a lot more that 5 bu an acre when you try to get the picker through 18" rows, that sounds like a struggle! :)

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Charlie

02-24-2001 16:16:48




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 Re: narrow rows in reply to Rick, 02-24-2001 14:43:07  
You may want to remeasure your picker - I think in 18 inch rows it will pick one and knock down the next one.



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