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Implement or car tires?

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Jerry H.

02-13-2001 11:56:36




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My Dads 10' disk and 4-row planter need new tires and was wondering what you think would be better, implement or car/truck tires? They has truck tires on them before and seemed o.k. I think implement tires to fit these are $40-$50 each new. My brother has some good tires that came off his car I could use(not dry-rotted, just not much tread). I am going to be taking both the planter and disk down the road a couple of miles to different fields quite a bit.

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2fordsmike

02-21-2001 11:23:45




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
Tires? The most common breakdown on farms is flat tires. If you are 4-row you are probably part-time. So, you start down the road with your planter at 5:30 p.m. and get a flat and lose that "day." Whatever you do, put at least new recaps or good used 6-plys on the planter. Mike



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MCL in IN

02-18-2001 07:53:07




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
Nothing wrong with car tires on old implements like a disk or plow. That implement is far lighter than a car or truck. I see two problems with the planter though. The planter is driven from the wheels. You need good traction which an old slick car tire may not have. Same problem with mechanical lift plows. The other thing is seed rate. The seed rate is figured off of the drive wheel circumference which is figured from loaded rolling radius (it smashes when on the ground loaded). A car tire will most likely be different than the correct implement tire. If you are playing and not real concerned about being dead on accurate then a car tire would probably work. If you use it to make a living and are concerned about the cost of seed and fertilizer I would buy the proper tire and keep the correct air pressure in it.

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JWS

02-18-2001 15:59:37




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 Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to MCL in IN, 02-18-2001 07:53:07  
I saw a 4-row JD planter that had bar (small tractor type) 15" tires on it pointed backwards. I have seen quite a few manure spreaders and other ground-driven implements with bar tires pointed backwards. Heard it's supposed to do better this way.



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MCL in IN

02-18-2001 20:10:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to JWS, 02-18-2001 15:59:37  
Those are for traction. On a drive wheel or lift wheel they can slide in less than favorable conditions. The tractor tread helps keep them from sliding.



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sammy the RED

02-14-2001 17:20:07




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
My uncle always put new tires on the truck.
Old tires from truck went on the front of one of the H's.



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Elden Denning

02-15-2001 19:40:00




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 Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to sammy the RED, 02-14-2001 17:20:07  
Wow, that must have been fun running a narrow front H with smooth oversize truck tires on it. Restorers, don't do that to your pride and joy. So many H's are out there with ugly tires on 'em, it's sad really. Any restored H deserves a nice set of 5.50-16 triple-rib 4 or 6 ply tires to balance the well balanced design of the rest of the tractor.



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Bob

02-16-2001 11:59:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Elden Denning, 02-15-2001 19:40:00  
How can you turn a H with truck tires in the mud, or even slick grass? There is only so much weight you can add to the front to try and help it. I bought a tractor that had bald truck tires on the front and to make it worse one was 16" and the other was 15". Because of this the tie rods got worn out on the ends and it bent the smaller rim a bit. Of course this was a wide-front tractor.



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tommyw

02-16-2001 19:44:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Bob, 02-16-2001 11:59:16  
IMPLEMENT TIRES ARE JUNK, in our area they are priced the same as a 10 ply 16" pickup tire. i use tractor tires on the front of my tractors . smooth tread wont work on the front.but on the implements i buy new 16" 10 ply pickup tires they last as long as 10 implement tires. implement tires are low ply non dot rated,so they dont have any standards to meet.



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luckydog

02-14-2001 06:07:49




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
Jerry--You should look at your owners manual for your planter to see what tire size is recomended. The planter is rated for seed drop in your book and is determind all around your the tire circumferance. I would say to go with what the book says on your planter. luckydog



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Charlie

02-13-2001 18:20:23




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
I use car tires on things such as plows and planter tires without much problem. I always add an inner tube when I put them on. I think they work fine as long as they don't have a lot of weight on them. As an example, they don't work well on a hay wagon.



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Alan Farley

02-13-2001 18:59:41




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 Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Charlie, 02-13-2001 18:20:23  
Why do you say that car tires don't work well on a haywagon? I see car tires on a haywagon more than any other implement. Probaly not much flotation unless you get 4WD truck mud-tires I guess.



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Charlie

02-14-2001 05:43:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Alan Farley, 02-13-2001 18:59:41  
I worry about the strength of the sidewalls of radial tires when there is a lot of weight on them. I guess around the farm you could make due with them. I have hay customers that take my wagons on the road so tires are a concern. I had a radial tire on the back of one of my wagons last year. I had 60 pounds of air in it at one time and it was still flat. Maybe truck tires have stronger sidewalls. I've just decided to use implement tires for hay wagons. It made the decision easier when last year at an auction I got 4 good implement tires for a total of $2.50.

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JD70Jim

02-14-2001 07:35:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Charlie, 02-14-2001 05:43:41  
I think I agree with Alan on the sidewall problem.
I bought a used wagon gear two years ago for use as a hayrack. Built a new 8x16 rack, painted the gear,replaced bearings, etc, and as all of our other hayracks ran car tires I bought 4 radial 215R14 car tires. They always look flat under load. This year I'm looking for good used implement tires for this wagon, floatation tires if possible. If they had been 16 inch truck tires maybe the results would have been more like our other wagons (all 15 or 16 inch tires)

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Halbert

02-14-2001 13:38:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to JD70Jim, 02-14-2001 07:35:27  
Most car radial tire sizes, even 14" can be found in "LT" (light truck) versions and are much better with heavy loads; look for these off of light trucks for heavily loaded wagons. For a planter the car tires should be OK.



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tommyw

02-16-2001 19:50:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Halbert, 02-14-2001 13:38:27  
i changed my implements to 16' wheels (about 40.00) so i could use 10 ply pickup tiser 3042# lbs each they are a LOT stronger than implement tire and more thorn proof. DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IMPLEMENT TIRES unless they are real cheap.



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Greg S

02-13-2001 13:01:54




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 Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Jerry H., 02-13-2001 11:56:36  
Jerry,
If it wasn't for old car tires most farmers wouldn't be in business. The car tires aren't the same load rating and with radial tires chances of punching out a sidewall on a rock or root are greater but if a guy uses his head probably not taking a big chance using auto tires.



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Dick Davis

02-14-2001 04:46:13




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 Re: Re: Implement or car tires? in reply to Greg S, 02-13-2001 13:01:54  
A bad thing about implement tires (other than their cost) is most are labeled "Do Not Exceed 25MPH". Anything you are hauling on the road for any significant distance behind a pick up might overheat/fail. It is a trade off between load capacity and speed.



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