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larry thomas

08-31-1998 20:25:31




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I have a NH 237 wire tie baler that is giving me a hard time. I am open to suggestions on how to adjust the thing or how to change my approach.

First Problem: I have to keep my windrows very small in size...12"x12". Anything larger than that and the baler will eat bull wheel shear bolts #5 hardness as fast as I can put them in. I am moving forward in low side of first gear...snail slow at 1100rpms.

Second Problem: My fail to tie rate is about 6%.
The tie is either completely missed or incomplete.
When I bought the baler, I had the tie fingers replace and set by a person who was familiar with NH operations.

In summary, I am producing bales in the 65-70 lb range of grass/alfalfa mix and they don't feel like they are over loading the wires. I keep the equipment clean, sheded, and lubricated. AT my current rate, I can successfully bale 30 bales an hour....hell the horses eat faster than that!

Open to all ideas and suggestions.
Thank you
Larry L. Thomas
Colorado Springs, Co

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Don

09-09-1998 09:00:55




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 Re: NH baler operation in reply to larry thomas, 08-31-1998 20:25:31  
Larry, have you checked the timing? There are notches for the plunger pitman and notched for the tine feeders into the bale chamber and on the knotter clutch... consult your manual and make sure it is timed correctly. If you are shearing flywheel shear bolts it is not because you are baling in too heavy material or going too fast or even not running the baler at enough RPM. Something is out of time and if you use anything but soft shear bolts you will eventually pick up the pieces. Remember you will have both plunger/tine feed timing and knotter/needle timing to be concerned about.

: I have a NH 237 wire tie baler that is giving me a hard time. I am open to suggestions on how to adjust the thing or how to change my approach.

: First Problem: I have to keep my windrows very small in size...12"x12". Anything larger than that and the baler will eat bull wheel shear bolts #5 hardness as fast as I can put them in. I am moving forward in low side of first gear...snail slow at 1100rpms.

: Second Problem: My fail to tie rate is about 6%.
: The tie is either completely missed or incomplete.
: When I bought the baler, I had the tie fingers replace and set by a person who was familiar with NH operations.

: In summary, I am producing bales in the 65-70 lb range of grass/alfalfa mix and they don't feel like they are over loading the wires. I keep the equipment clean, sheded, and lubricated. AT my current rate, I can successfully bale 30 bales an hour....hell the horses eat faster than that!

: Open to all ideas and suggestions.
: Thank you
: Larry L. Thomas
: Colorado Springs, Co

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FARMBOY

09-08-1998 07:52:45




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 Re: NH baler operation in reply to larry thomas, 08-31-1998 20:25:31  
: I have a NH 237 wire tie baler that is giving me a hard time. I am open to suggestions on how to adjust the thing or how to change my approach.

: First Problem: I have to keep my windrows very small in size...12"x12". Anything larger than that and the baler will eat bull wheel shear bolts #5 hardness as fast as I can put them in. I am moving forward in low side of first gear...snail slow at 1100rpms.

: Second Problem: My fail to tie rate is about 6%.
: The tie is either completely missed or incomplete.
: When I bought the baler, I had the tie fingers replace and set by a person who was familiar with NH operations.

: In summary, I am producing bales in the 65-70 lb range of grass/alfalfa mix and they don't feel like they are over loading the wires. I keep the equipment clean, sheded, and lubricated. AT my current rate, I can successfully bale 30 bales an hour....hell the horses eat faster than that!

: Open to all ideas and suggestions.
: Thank you
: Larry L. Thomas
: Colorado Springs, Co

: The last gentleman is correct, this baler should run at about 72 strokes a minute. As to the shear bolts, do not use grade five bolts. Several reasons, the manufacturing quality is not there, they will run soft to hard and may break something. Use NH shear bolts as they are actually harder than a five but softer than an eight. As to the tying, I would have to see the twist to be of any help there. GOOD LUCK

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Dick Davis

09-01-1998 04:11:43




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 Re: NH baler operation in reply to larry thomas, 08-31-1998 20:25:31  
:Larry I don't think I have the answer, but you're covering the basics by clean, lube, and shed, those solve/prevent a lot of problems.

Each baler has an optimum operating cycle per min.
My old NH Model 80 has a V 4 Wisconsin Air Cooled. I have to adjust the engine rpm to achieve 50-52 cycles per minute on the baler.

You said you were pulling in low gear at 1100 rpm. If the baler is a pto variety that sounds way to slow for the baler to function properly.
Check the operating manual or call the dealer to determine the optimum operating rpm and then stay on that number. Underspeed will result in all three problems you are experiencing. You usually aren't being kind to machinery by babying it.
Good luck, hope I helped. Dick

: I have a NH 237 wire tie baler that is giving me a hard time. I am open to suggestions on how to adjust the thing or how to change my approach.

: First Problem: I have to keep my windrows very small in size...12"x12". Anything larger than that and the baler will eat bull wheel shear bolts #5 hardness as fast as I can put them in. I am moving forward in low side of first gear...snail slow at 1100rpms.

: Second Problem: My fail to tie rate is about 6%.
: The tie is either completely missed or incomplete.
: When I bought the baler, I had the tie fingers replace and set by a person who was familiar with NH operations.

: In summary, I am producing bales in the 65-70 lb range of grass/alfalfa mix and they don't feel like they are over loading the wires. I keep the equipment clean, sheded, and lubricated. AT my current rate, I can successfully bale 30 bales an hour....hell the horses eat faster than that!

: Open to all ideas and suggestions.
: Thank you
: Larry L. Thomas
: Colorado Springs, Co

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Dick Davis

09-01-1998 03:52:47




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 Re: NH baler operation in reply to larry thomas, 08-31-1998 20:25:31  
: I have a NH 237 wire tie baler that is giving me a hard time. I am open to suggestions on how to adjust the thing or how to change my approach.

: First Problem: I have to keep my windrows very small in size...12"x12". Anything larger than that and the baler will eat bull wheel shear bolts #5 hardness as fast as I can put them in. I am moving forward in low side of first gear...snail slow at 1100rpms.

: Second Problem: My fail to tie rate is about 6%.
: The tie is either completely missed or incomplete.
: When I bought the baler, I had the tie fingers replace and set by a person who was familiar with NH operations.

: In summary, I am producing bales in the 65-70 lb range of grass/alfalfa mix and they don't feel like they are over loading the wires. I keep the equipment clean, sheded, and lubricated. AT my current rate, I can successfully bale 30 bales an hour....hell the horses eat faster than that!

: Open to all ideas and suggestions.
: Thank you
: Larry L. Thomas
: Colorado Springs, Co

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