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Engine Driven Balers?

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Karl Bader

01-28-2001 13:49:44




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I've never seen one. Anyone have any pictures? You can post them here or e-mail me at [email protected]

Thanks,

Karl




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Don Fahrenkrog

02-01-2001 09:17:52




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
I've been working on a 1942 CASE model NL trailer baler for some time. You hand fed and tied the little darling and it was operated by a single cyl. Wisconsin. I'm still missing a couple of critical parts and could use any help or leads.



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Ron

02-01-2001 19:45:04




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Don Fahrenkrog, 02-01-2001 09:17:52  
Don, I have some old parts manuals on the NCMT, NCM wiretie, and the NT, but no NL. It must have been before these models. I may have a few old parts for these that were left over from and old case dealership but not many. I know I have some needles for an NT. If you give me some #'s I would be glad to look.



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LRice

01-28-2001 21:59:29




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
Have a International Mod 55 with a 4cyl engine. Still in use works great. Got an owners manual somewhere that I could scan some pics in if you want.



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Tom

01-29-2001 18:11:14




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to LRice, 01-28-2001 21:59:29  
I have an old 50T or 55T like the one in your scanned picture. It has been sitting in the orchard for a while and I am considering whether or not to resurrect it from the dead. I know the 4 clyinder continental motor is free. Do you think it is worth the effort?
If you have some general information that you could scan to me on this machine I would greatly appreciate it. I have no clue on how to string the twine. Thank you Tom

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LRice

01-28-2001 22:20:07




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to LRice, 01-28-2001 21:59:29  
third party image

heres a pic.



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Joe Evans

01-28-2001 19:57:59




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
No pictures, but the Old Man had an International Model 45 with a 2 cyl Wisconsin engine on it. Biggest POS I've ever had the the displeasure of being around. That thing couldn't tie 100 consecutive bales without screwing up despite the dealer's finest workin' on it. My Old Man must have had the patience of Job!



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Jim from Stonepile

01-28-2001 20:10:15




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Joe Evans, 01-28-2001 19:57:59  
Your Dad had to have the patience of Job, He had already spent his money on it! BTW, the balers haven't improved much since! Apparently weren't built heavy enough and the metal fatigue set in and things would not properly line up for tieing when it got some age on it.



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Tom from Ontario

01-28-2001 18:30:39




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
There were a lot of the bigger square balers available with engines within the last twenty years. These were mainly for the real serious balers in the irrigated hay areas where they did six cuts or more a year and the balers might do 50,000 bales a year. Some of these guys baled at night to save leaves and they pulled with 4wd trucks or any thing else where they could be relatively comfortable for a 10 hour shot at baling. I talked to one lad from Arizona a few years ago. He bought two new balers every year, his dealer had 24 hour service and if the service guy took more than one hour to get there, the dealer paid him $50 per hour down time. All this guys hay went to California dairy farms.

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Jim from Stonepile

01-28-2001 17:40:43




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
Don't have any pictures, but I remember two Wisconsin V4 powered New Holland balers. IF you got them started you kept them running all season! Seems as though the hotter it was the harder they were to start.



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paul

01-28-2001 21:49:22




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Jim from Stonepile, 01-28-2001 17:40:43  
Sounds like every Wisconsin I've worked with good motors, don't like heat. :)

--->Paul



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Steve from Tn

01-28-2001 15:57:00




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
Karl, back in the 50's, we had a Case baler that we pulled with an 8N. Two men rode the seats and tied the bales with baling wire. I was allowed to try tying just once; I couldn't keep up. The dust was horenduous. We wore dust masks that helped a good bit. We custom baled all over the county. It was hard, dirty work. Ah, the good old days!



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Vern

01-28-2001 22:32:02




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Steve from Tn , 01-28-2001 15:57:00  
Steve;
I cut my eye teeth on a Case baler. Started out as a tyer and progressed to needleman. My older brother and I were the highest paid needlemen in the valley ($1.35 / hr). It was common to put out 110# bales. No other baler of that time, late 40's, could match it.



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RayP

01-28-2001 14:36:15




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 Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Karl Bader, 01-28-2001 13:49:44  
Seen a number of them - Amish folk around use them quite a bit - horse drawn! When I was a kid, we had a custom baler working for us, Usually pulled his motor driven baler with a Farmall H - but it broke down, so he sent his son out to pull it with a Farmall A - When he'd stop, the motion of the plunger on the bailer would move the unit back and forth 3 feet! Sorry, don't have any pictures, only the memories!

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Dick Davis

01-29-2001 03:09:53




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 Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to RayP, 01-28-2001 14:36:15  
I have a New Holland model 80 wire baler with a Wisconsin V-4 engine. The rig weighs 4800# and "short" bales weigh 60#. It was stored for 25 years but took relatively little to get running again. It really can eat hay. If my wife figures out how to run her new digital camera, I'll post pictures on Gallery. A great thing about the baler is it came with all manuals in excellent condition. They are so easy to read and understand, really builds confidence in repairs/adjustments. Dick Davis

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bob

02-05-2001 07:04:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Dick Davis, 01-29-2001 03:09:53  
what is the going rate for baling in your area In northwest Ia. small squares run .75 -1.00 and rounds 7.00-9.00



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Dick Davis

02-06-2001 04:06:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to bob, 02-05-2001 07:04:45  
Can't speak with knowledge about rates for baling. Guess I don't even know who does baling for money around here, everybody wants the hay. Is your .75 - $1.00 rate for just the baling or does that include mowing, raking, or pick up? With the price of gas sure couldn't make much money doing commercial work, huh? Dick Davis



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bob

02-16-2001 11:55:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine Driven Balers? in reply to Dick Davis, 02-06-2001 04:06:34  
just baling windrowing 8.00 to10.00 an acre cutting 7.00 raking 2.50



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