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Transporting a baler on the road

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Phil

01-05-2001 10:43:12




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I need to move a NH269 baler approximately 50 miles. What is the best way to do this? Can/should I pull it behind my truck and if so is there a max speed I should go, I don't think I want to cruise at 60 mph but how is 30. If pulling is not recommended for that kind of mileage does anyone know the length and width of a trailer I would need to haul it. Thanks.




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B.C.

01-09-2001 09:40:07




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
I've moved balers behind trucks but not 50 miles.

Backroads or quiet secondary roads always seemed a lot more friendly and tended to surprise people less when oncoming or overtaking me. It would be wise to "check out the course" first and avoid surprises.

It's best to do it in broad daylight, avoiding commuter hours and dawn or dusk.

Be sure the tires and axle bearing are up to it. Most ag tires won't take sustained 30+ mph at anywhere near their load rating.

A slow moving vehicle triangle and a stick-on blinking light would be a good idea and might go in your favor should things take a turn for the worse.

Keep your speed down to 25 or 30 mph. It's a lot easier to stop or avoid obstacles.

Loading a baler onto a trailer isn't a joke. A full size truck with a tilt bed and winch would be a much better alternative.

Good luck and be safe.

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Ken Goth (MO)

01-08-2001 06:27:19




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
I moved a JD 24T about 80 miles using the lift it on/off method. I bought the baler from a widow that lived near my in-laws. I originally thought I would pull it all the way home, but soon discovered that any speed over 10 mph caused some serious tail-wagging. Got it to my father-in-law's, then let it set for a few weeks while I tried to figure out to get it on my 7x16 trailer. Had Barney's idea for loading it, but before I could try it my father-in-law called to say it was loaded. Seems he had done some welding for a farmer and then got the farmer to bring over his loader and lift it on to the trailer. I arranged with a neighbor on my end that had a derrick digger to lift it off once I got it home. After that just made sure it was chained down real good and headed for home. The pickup side of the baler did hang over about 18 inches on the passenger side which did make for a few close calls on mailboxes and highway signs.

My advice, get it on a trailer one way or another. It'll be alot eaiser in the long run - see Jim.UT's tale.

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Barney

01-06-2001 09:06:44




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Phil: When I helped my buddy get his NH 273 home,we drove about 120 miles one way. We took his car trailor,the ones you see everywhere,they all have enough room to get a car on, and have angle iron side rails about a foot high on each side. We backed the baler on the trailor so that the pickup side of the baler was on the drivers side. To do this we made a ramp from concrete blocks and heavy rough cut lumber so the pickup wheel of the baler had its own ramp because it was hanging over the side of the trailor.We kept the bale chamber wheel against the inside of the trailor as close as possible to the side rail. When the frame of the baler on the pickup side started to make contact with the frame on the drivers side of the trailor,I put a 2X4 under the pickup frame of the baler and wired it to the baler frame so it would slide along the top of the side rail of the trailor. I then put grease on top of the side rail of the trailor. As the pickup wheel left its ramp,the weight was taken up by the side rail of the trailor. It slide on very easily. The pickup wheel was hanging off the trailor on the drivers side so it could be watched easily,and nothing was hanging over on the other side to hit mailboxes,ect. We centered it over the axles so the tongue would be on the trailor, and chained it down, and drove the speed limit after a few miles of rebucking the binders. (Thats normal).We never had any problems because we took the truckers route around every busy town. I think the wheel hung off about 18 inches,but I'm not sure. Hope this helps; Barney

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galen

01-06-2001 07:51:10




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
If you want to trailer an over width implement another way to load them is to angle them on the trailer. On ssquare baler tie up your bale chute or remove. Angle baler on chain bler down then swing tongue if need to remove bolt on left side of tongue to lay tongue on trailer. Take plenty of blocking and ramp material. Also have plenty of tools and cheater pipe. I would only go to this much work if going through urban area. Or had long distance to go and needed to get some speed up. Another tidbit I've learned which might help someone else, if going to move a disc pull type , hook a chian or comealong on the frame to the hitch on the tongue and pull tight to take the slack out. This will take a lot of the whip out for you.

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Z-bar

01-05-2001 22:25:24




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Phill, I bought a JD 24-T about 70 miles from home and pulled back, with out any problems. Be sure that its set for travel, and not in the hay pick up mode or you will take up the whole road. I pulled it with a 85 ford ranger from Downing Mo. right down 63 hwy. went through the big collage town of Kirksville at noon. the tires had flat spots on them from setting, so for the first 10 miles it was 15 mph. after they warmed up I drove at 45. Watch your mirror and pull off on the shoulder if you have to, to let traffic past. You may want to check the wheel bearings before you start out make shure they have grease, they are the next weak link after tires. luck.

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Jim.UT

01-05-2001 20:10:56




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Your question brings back painful memories of August '99. Being raised a city kid, I was at the mercy of "experts" when I decided to buy a baler. The best deal I could get on a baler was 230 miles away. The used baler dealer assured me that transporting the thing over the highway was "no problem, it's done all the time." He even went so far as to say 50 mph was ok. WRONG!! It took hours to drive up there and more than 2 days to get back. The first problem was the tire blew out 80 miles down the road. Wound up staying with an uncle that (lucky for me) lived in the area. Had to leave the baler by the side of the interstate overnight. Took half the next day to get the wheel fixed, a tire mounted and put back on the baler. Then I drove no faster than 30 mph for 20 minutes at a time then stopped for 20 minutes to let the baler tires cool. By that evening I had to stop again because of another flat tire. Tire store was about to close so I left the baler there and went back for it the next weekend. For the final leg of the trip I travelled early in the morning (when it was cool) and I had a CB radio in the truck. Every 10 minutes or so I'd call out my position and announce I was moving slowly in the right lane just so any big trucks coming my way would be forewarned. Never again. If I ever replace this baler, I'll pay the extra to have it freighted or I'll be sure to buy locally. Fifty miles shouldn't be a big problem if you follow the other advice you've already received here. Sorry for the long post, just had to share my story of stupidity. At the very least it reminds me to get advice from more than one source before doing something new. Good luck.

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rch

01-05-2001 19:41:12




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
i pull equipment like this early Sunday morning, less traffic. I know this is a problem to some, but bull in the wheat field.



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Alvin

01-05-2001 18:16:55




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Report back when you have your mailbox sale!! What ever method you chose, be carefull, there are just too d** many impatient drivers out there that don't know the dangers they put themselves and everybody else at and it appears that they don't care. When something goes wrong it is the other persons fault .



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'Bandit'

01-05-2001 17:58:26




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Balers aren't built for high speeds so keep it slow and easy. I would do like they say and put a flashing light on the back, and grease those hubs good, so you don't damage the bearings, you may even want to stop several times to let the wheels cool down. Just a thought, good luck, happy hauling



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Alan Farley

01-05-2001 13:22:20




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
Have atleast a 1/2 ton truck to pull it even if you have to borrow one.I wouldn't go over 20mph. Make sure to have a grease gun with you to pop some grease in the wheel hub if it has zirc(grease) fittings. John Deere doesn't have any zircs in most of their older equipment Iv'e noticed. I severely cracked a planter hub because JD didn't have any zircs on the wheel hub, they want you to buy a new one when it breaks.Pulled it home from 60 miles away. We put one in and so can you on that baler if not equipped with one. MAKE SURE TO HAVE YOUR SLOW-MOVING VECHICLE EMBLEM IN PLACE ON THE BACK OF THAT BALER. Be safe and watch those mailboxes on the side of the road!

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highboyford

01-05-2001 13:20:18




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 Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to Phil, 01-05-2001 10:43:12  
I have had the joy/fun of pulling a few balers down the road.The very first thing I do is make sure you have a couple of spare tires.Second change the tires on the baler from the implement tire to 15 or 16 inch truck tires these handle the heat alot bettor and you wont find yourself with blown out tires.Put a smv sign in plain view or you might even want to wire on a flashing light depending on the idiots where you live.The speed will be limited to how bad the hole on your truck is wore and how bad the hitch is wore on the baler,and how good your brakes are.You dont say if the baler has a kicker/thrower or not but you could have a weight transfer problem at over 30 mph which will cause the tale to wag the dog so to speak,this is very bad for your stomach.
I have also used a 7x16 dual axle trailer,if you have a loader ready to set it on the trailer use wood blocks to support the baler on what would be the passenger side(wheel will hang over side of trailer hitch pointed forward)chain it down snug and sale along.If a loader is not around bring enough wood to make a ramp and use a come along to pull it on the trailer and then a handyman hilift jack to lift the baler so you can then block it up.Good luck and remember Rome was not built in a day.

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Alan Farley

01-07-2001 08:59:34




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 Re: Re: Transporting a baler on the road in reply to highboyford, 01-05-2001 13:20:18  
Come to think of it, Quality F&F and TSC sell a battery powered amber/red flashing light for farm equipment that is magnetic. It costs about $20, but for as much as I move equipment on the road, I should have one. Maybe you could put it on that baler.



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