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Dave Helms

10-29-2000 05:02:13




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I am attempting to build up a few small, occational use pastures on our property. Facts: Soil has never been turned, until this fall when I plowed and disked it (left it rough for winter)
Has only had native prarrie grasses in it. I have tried to fertilize (10-10-10) and seed (dry land pasture mix) for the last few years, but the ground was a brick, and had no luck getting germination. This year I kept it mowed short all summer to control weeds, and plowed it this fall (more like watching a highway crew breaking up roadway than plowing) Spread a lot of aged horse manure before plowing to help break up the clay. It was all the old Ferguson could do with a single 12" moldboard, but after two passes with the disc it looks like dirt that might grow something. I have a soil test being done now. Whats next? Cover crop? Plant this fall, or is it too late? Will most likly use dryland pasture mix again as "they" say it works the best in Colorado. I now have an old TO-30, 1 bottom plow, single disk, box scraper, 2 spike harrows, and a chain drag that I use for breaking up horse manure. I have even considered putting sprinkler heads around parimeter for when things get real dry. This pasture will be about 1/2 acre, and I would like to do 2 or 3 more like it if I can grow grass in Colorado. Now you know what I have to work with. Could anyone talk me through the best way to continue.
Thank you for any and all advise,
Dave

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BleLight

10-30-2000 07:22:59




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 Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Dave Helms, 10-29-2000 05:02:13  
I have 4 acres that a farmer has been taking
hay off for years until now. I'm going to plow
it under and seed to alphalfa. The next year I'm plowing it under and re-seeding to hay mix
again. Now I'm not sure how that will do down south but as a nitrogen fixer,deep rooter (5Ft) it's the best I think for green manure in these northern climates. It adds alot of organic matter to your clay as well. I'd give a piece a try as an experiment. Go to your feed store and see if there is a drought hardy variety for your zone.

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Fudd@Work

10-29-2000 22:09:51




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 Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Dave Helms, 10-29-2000 05:02:13  
Where are you located? I live up by Conifer. I will try to contact Pat over on the Tales board to help you as he lives by Elizabeth and Franktown.



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Dave

10-31-2000 20:16:34




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 Re: Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Fudd@Work, 10-29-2000 22:09:51  
I to live by Elizabeth. Parker mailing address, but about 5 miles north of Elizabeth. If he has gone through this before, it could be a great help to get his feedback.
Thanks, Dave



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ChuckKS

10-29-2000 17:40:33




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 Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Dave Helms, 10-29-2000 05:02:13  

Dave, why don't you go to your local county extension office. They can tell you everything that you need to know about your particular area. They know what works best. You might want to get your soil tested also, another thing the extension office can help you with. If your PH is out of range high or low they will tell you what and how much to put on. What works in one area isn't necessarily the best for another.
Something to consider. Have fun.

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Steve from Tn

10-29-2000 05:27:22




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 Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Dave Helms, 10-29-2000 05:02:13  
Sounds like you are going in the right direction. One day you will get a timely rain and that seed will sprout. Some folks sow wheat for winter pasture. It might get too cold there for wheat.



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Dave

10-29-2000 07:36:05




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 Re: Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Steve from Tn, 10-29-2000 05:27:22  
Thanks for the reply. There are some big fields that were planted about a month ago, and already growing. Havent found out who planted them yet, but I am searching. I think we are in zone 5. Do I need to plant a cover crop, like rye, that will germinate faster that the pasture mix? When do I seed? The neighbor has a garden tractor tow behind broadcast spreader that I thought would be large enough for these small pastures. I am a bit concerned the field might hardpan over the winter, but I figured I could disk it in the spring before planting. Seeing as there has not been any air to the root zone since the glaciers left I dont suppose this will be too big a problem. When do I fertilize?
Thanks again
Dave

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Steve from Tn

10-29-2000 05:27:29




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 Re: Small pasture advise in reply to Dave Helms, 10-29-2000 05:02:13  
Sounds like you are going in the right direction. One day you will get a timely rain and that seed will sprout. Some folks sow wheat for winter pasture. It might get too cold there for wheat.



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