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RickG

10-10-2000 13:13:08




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What is the best way to smooth out a rough field? I am new to this, plow or disk or both? I see there are many kinds (moldboard, ripper,etc..) The field has been mowed down and has almost no rocks, but mowing was not fun with all the ruts and uneven surface. I have a zetor tractor about 52 hp. What should I get?




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Robert

10-14-2000 16:32:57




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 Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 13:13:08  
If you want the "best" job done in the least amount of trips over the field, you need a Howard Rovator! I do custom tractor work, and when a farmer has an old orchard, or pasture that needs rejuvinated, they want it Rotovated. They want it level and the sod worked under in the least amount of pass'. A Rotovator does this best. Hope this helps, Robert



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tophat

10-12-2000 06:19:06




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 Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 13:13:08  
What do you want to end up with? We had a large farmer work the soil and plant winter wheat. In early spring I frost seeded with a pasture mix. The farmer came and got his wheat and left me with a smooth field and a green pasture. A win win deal. It saved my little tractor all that work



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paul

10-10-2000 19:45:58




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 Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 13:13:08  
This seems obvious to some of us, but - plow it now in fall, and then level it in spring. This works real well here in MN where the winter freeze mellows the sod lumps. A lot.

At least, let it rain between plowing & finishing up leveling it.

--->Paul



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Dave in Mo

10-11-2000 09:31:55




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 Re: Re: rough field in reply to paul, 10-10-2000 19:45:58  
I thought fall plowing was frowned upon because of soil erosion during the winter snows and rain not to mention worse for wildlife. Here in Mo, I've heard we rank 2nd in the nation as the worst offenders for soil lost per year, about 2 tons per acre.



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Dick Davis

10-13-2000 05:20:45




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 Re: Re: Re: rough field in reply to Dave in Mo, 10-11-2000 09:31:55  
Paul is correct about anti farmers and they are constantly talking about erosion. Dave is probably correct that 2 tons/acre is lost. And that sounds horrific, BUT erosion is nature at work. Bottom land with heavy vegatation still erodes. It cannot be stopped! But good stewards of the land, and farmers are amoung the best, controll the rate of errosion. When we hear or read about soil loss we need to ask, "Compared to what?" Dick Davis

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paul

10-11-2000 20:41:01




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 Re: Re: Re: rough field in reply to Dave in Mo, 10-11-2000 09:31:55  
Farming in general is frowned upon by some - the midwest should be abandoned by humans & returned to buffalo - the 'Buffalo Commons' idea. But I digress.

All depends on your soil. If it's a screaming hill, plowing is bad. If it's deep rich flat bottom land, plowing isn't going to matter. Most are somewhere in between.

If you want to end up with level smooth land, fall plowing helps get there the best. You have to weigh the rest of the variables.

--->Paul

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Ray Peterson

10-10-2000 16:59:22




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 Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 13:13:08  
I am faced with a similar problem, my plan is to work up the surface with a disc to cut up the sod which may enable me to plow with a moldboard plow without major sod buildup on the shanks. You probably should have rolling coulters on your plow to cut the sod too. After plowing, a dragging or discing will help level the surface more, if your furrows are rough. When I was a kid we sometimes were lucky and plowed smoothly enough to skip dragging afterward!

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LazyHorse

10-10-2000 13:46:25




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 Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 13:13:08  
I would reccomend the old fashioned mold board plow followed by discing twice in each direction. On the final pass you can pull a heavy drag behind the disc to help smooth & level prior to seeding or planting



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RickG

10-10-2000 14:07:23




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 Re: Re: rough field in reply to LazyHorse, 10-10-2000 13:46:25  
do they have a plow/disc combination that you could do in one run?



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LazyHorse

10-10-2000 18:15:38




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 Re: Re: Re: rough field in reply to RickG, 10-10-2000 14:07:23  
There are combination plows, but if your ground has been in sod any time at all you will be better off to follow the plow then disc drag method. I have a pasture that hasn't been worked for about 15 years, and it is all my 60 horse power tractor wants to pull the 2 bottom plow through the sod & heavy clay. Another option if you dont have all the toys (implements) is to hire a local farmer with bigger machinery to come in and do the work. They usually charge by the acre, and though the price made sound expensive it is probably cheaper than buying implements, and fuel to do the job yourself

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