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Jon

05-25-2000 19:04:39




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I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any way or any device that I could attach to my baler that would collect bales as the come out and then I could unload at the end of every windrow or soforth. I've looked at some production machines, but can't afford one at this time. There are some places where I bale that there is just enough room for the tractor and baler to get turned around at the end of the windrow, so I would almost need something that bolted on to the baler or something of that nature. Thanks for any info you might have. Jon.

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tim[in]

05-27-2000 04:10:06




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 Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 19:04:39  
there is a device called a hay basket . it's a 3 wheeled cart that the baler just pushes the bales up the chute . the commercially made model will hold a 100 bales ,but i saw in farm show magazine that someone made one themselves out of wood. so you could make a smaller one and since it's really a 2 wheeled cart with a third wheel to stablize it like a tricycle , you could make one small enough to manuever around your fields and best of all it dumps by gravity and would be homemade and cheap. if this is too much then what we would do and it required getting off the tractor if you are one man or having your help take the bales out of the baler and stacking them ON the baler when we changed wagons or just ran out of a place to stack them on the wagon . hope this helps! i remember how hard it is to get help of any kind!!let us know how it turns out ! =)

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Jon

05-27-2000 07:44:42




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to tim[in], 05-27-2000 04:10:06  
Hey Tim, This sounds like what I may be looking for. Could you send me an e-mail telling some more info about it? Thanks. Jon.



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tim[in]

05-27-2000 23:03:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-27-2000 07:44:42  
i saw it in farm show magazine. i'm going to try to figure out some way of getting you the general idea . just not very puter literate. picture a large basket on wheels shaped like a /V . the slash is part of the chute that is connected to the basket that the bales slide up and tumble down by gravity into the V which is the actual basket! the back part of the V is like a huge hinged gate which has a latch on one side which allows you to dump tha bales at an elevator or in a building or wherever and resume balingnothing high teck. and for a real small one i bet someone half way mechanical could probably make one ,a very small one like you want out of a few old metal tube farm gates whick you could get usedat a farm sale for little of nothing. or make out of 2X4s. hopefully this will give you an idea to play with until i can get a company name for you to see a better view of. if anything else you might be able to make a longer wagon hitch on the back of the baller and put like some gate or a small boardframe like a big plate with a bolt through the hitch which would be through the middle of the plateand short sides so the bales can come out of the chute and push each other out of the way . might only hold a tiny number ,but give some help.

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paul

05-28-2000 05:29:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to tim[in] , 05-27-2000 23:03:13  
Ah, you didn't mention it was Farm Show when I asked you about it a couple months ago. Go to www.farmshow.com and search their articles for 'hay basket' and you will get 2 addresses for it. Unfortunately they want to sell back issues, so you won't see the actual article on-line, but a few bucks will get you the storys...

--->Paul



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tim[in]

05-28-2000 12:46:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to paul, 05-28-2000 05:29:41  
i've slept since then !lol glad we could help! next time it might be me that needs the help. that's why we're hear to help one another!



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paul

05-28-2000 09:26:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to paul, 05-28-2000 05:29:41  
There, now I'm talking to myself. Rain has taken care of the weekend activities, so here I am on the 'net.

Found some haybasket pics finally, if this ad expires go to the root web page & search for 'basket' as I saw a couple.

Link

--->Paul



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Jon

05-28-2000 11:42:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to paul, 05-28-2000 09:26:08  
Thanks guys. Going to get some info on it soon. I will let you know how it all comes out. Hopefully I can build one that is a little smaller and it should work just fine. Jon.



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Valvejob

05-26-2000 21:23:23




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 Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 19:04:39  
Build yourself a drag to pull behind the baler, just pull it with a chain. In your case it can be easily disconnected while you get turned around. Leave a gap in the center wide enough for a crowbar to slide through.
Ours is two bale lengths wide and four long. Four 2 X 12 planks work fine. We usually load the area three bales long at the rear and leave the front area for the stacker to practice field surfing,its fun! Stacking 3 tiers high leaves your bales in nice piles of 36. When the drag is full place a short plank across the front of the pile, drive your crowbar into the ground in front of it and pull the drag out from under the load. This method saves alot of time picking them up later and we have saved our hay from getting wet before by covering the piles with tarps when an unexpected thunderstorm was barking at our butts. Also saves time when the twine breaks and Dads sleeping on the tractor again. I learned this Maine method from a farmer I worked for as a child, Its cheap, easy and fun.

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Gary(UT)

05-28-2000 11:24:15




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Valvejob, 05-26-2000 21:23:23  
I worked as a kid surfing a bale skid behind an old JD baler. It was mighty dusty work but not too difficult. Now days I prefer a bale accumulator. Some just drag behind and the bales are directed by gates but mine is hydraulic. You can get a bale hook for a farmhand loader that will pick up the whole pile at once to put on the wagon or stack.



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Jon

05-27-2000 07:48:03




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Valvejob, 05-26-2000 21:23:23  
Thanks this also sounds like a good idea. Could you send me an e-mail telling me more about it. Thanks. Jon.



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Big Jake

05-26-2000 09:58:45




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 Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 19:04:39  
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Jon

05-26-2000 15:09:10




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Big Jake, 05-26-2000 09:58:45  
Neato! That is a real neat deal, but still money would be the big factor there. Thanks for posting the link. Jon.



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BART

05-26-2000 06:36:57




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 Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 19:04:39  
WE USE TWO DIFFERNT SET UPS. ONE IS A KICKER ON THE BALER. WE PULL AN OLD COTTON WAGON DIRECTLY BEHIND IT. WE JUST LET THE BALES PILE UP HOWEVER THEY LAND. WE PULL THE WAGONS UNDER A SHED. WHEN WE GET TIME WE UNLOAD THEM INTO THE BARN. THE OHTER IS WE BUILT A RAMP COMING OFF OF THE BACK OF THE BALER. WE PULL A REGULAR HAY WAGON BEHIND IT AND STACK IT ON RIGHT THEN.



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Jon

05-26-2000 07:02:43




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to BART, 05-26-2000 06:36:57  
We have the same setup as what you are talking about, let the bales slide onto a wagon and then stack them as they go onto it. The problem is, is that help is becoming hard to find its becoming hard to be able to pay for help and still come ahead with the hay. I figured if I could find some way of building a device that would accumulate the bales and place them throughout the field, it would he easier. Some of the waterway that I bale, are too narrow and at the end I can't get the baler with wagon turned around. Thanks again. Jon.

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Tom from Ontario

05-25-2000 20:02:05




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 Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 19:04:39  
See if any of your neighbours have an old bale buncher sitting in the fencerow. Simple, no external power needed, yank the rope now and then, and best of all cheap.



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Jon

05-25-2000 20:46:59




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 Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Tom from Ontario, 05-25-2000 20:02:05  
I'm not sure if I have ever heard of one of these. Can you describe it and how it works? Thanks. Jon.



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Daveinsouthlouisiana

05-26-2000 04:16:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Jon, 05-25-2000 20:46:59  
The following link was posted on the Tales board by Farmer Mike. I found it interesting, and it may help you. www.netherexe.com Good luck, Dave



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Dave_D

05-26-2000 07:47:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Daveinsouthlouisiana, 05-26-2000 04:16:41  
Here is another accumulater link.



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Dave_D

05-26-2000 07:49:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Dave_D, 05-26-2000 07:47:57  
third party image

Try again..

http://www.konneker.com/hoelscher/



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Jon

05-26-2000 08:09:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Dave_D, 05-26-2000 07:49:12  
That's a neat setup too. Wonder how much they cost. I want to build something similar to this, but I don't know really how to begin. Jon.



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Jon

05-26-2000 07:06:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Square Baling help in reply to Daveinsouthlouisiana, 05-26-2000 04:16:41  
I have been looking at this system and it does seem to be a really well designed system and easy to use. I got some prices on it and they were reasonable, but for the amount of hay I'm putting up now, I just don't think I could afford it. If in the future I do start puttin up more hay, I think I am going to consider this. Thanks. Jon.



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