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Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest??

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Joe in IN

05-20-2008 07:15:59




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Getting ready to cut about 10 acres... and bale in 50-55lb squares.

What are people selling them for this year. Mainly concerned with Indiana, last year I started off at $3... and was way low...

I am thinking $4 per bale for Alf/Grass mix... I want to be low end of market but not way low....




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Hoosier Pete

05-20-2008 15:28:17




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
Do you get the Farm World paper? They have a section for hay and straw sales. Might give you some idea of what others in your area are charging. At the Knightstown Sale Barn last week some went for $6.50 per bale. Last years hay.

Pete



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bc

05-20-2008 15:13:12




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
Call your local/area livestock/hay sale barn. Around here they sell it at the hay auction most saturday mornings. The guy running the sale usually knows the value of hay. Usually sitting on the ground broken down into pickup or small trailer load size lots for the horse people. Then they sell by price per bale for the lot. Depends upon type, quality, and demand. $4 to $5 to $6 isn't unheard of. Sell a pickup load or few and then you can dicker with any buyers about any more and they come get it. That way the buyers can see your hay and compare it to what else is out there. Sometimes there is a big price spread between bales. (last years, first or third cutting, how stemmy it is, etc) Seems like the local elevators around here are usually contacted by the local and out of state guys looking for hay but only cash sale it to them with no checks. Your county extension agent probably has a handle on the price.

The second to the last time I bought hay at a sale barn, I didn't come back till the afternoon to pick it up. By then the guy who bought the stack next to mine pilfered half of mine.

Like one guy said on a thread a while back, problem with selling to someone to pick up in the field doesn't work unless you get cash up front before you bale. Otherwise they don't get it before it rains and then the rearend will tell you to shove your wet hay where the sun don't shine and you are stuck with ruined hay and no money. Put it in the barn or buy some tarps.

With gas and diesel the way it is, you can't sell too cheap. I bet we may see some $8 a bale stuff. It would cost me about 50 cents a bale in just mogas to deliver to or from the sale a pickup load of hay.

Figure all your variable costs (fuel & twine) and then your yearly machinery maintenance, machinery depreciation, plus your time, to see what your costs per bale are. My cutter last year charged $20 an hour to cut plus $9 per big bale or $1 per small bale (I pick up) to bale it. Averages me about $15 a big bale for brome. Probably pay more this year.

Some people buy by the bale and some buy it by the ton which are the advertised prices. Whatever you load up, haul across the scale to get an average weight since so many of these balers produce different size and weight bales. If you are lucky and even when the elevators aren't open, you can pull across the scale and peak into the window and see your weight. Depends upon where they are hiding their readout indicator.

Since I was a kid, I always compared the hay brought to the state fair each year. Love the smell. To me the hay/alfalfa either all looked the same or the blue ribbon hay looked the worst to me. Go figure. I don't claim to much of a judge of good hay.

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gitrib

05-20-2008 13:22:44




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
There is a old saying "The right pricr is all the market will bear". That is my theory. Good native prarie hay is selling to horse people for $6.00 per bale in the field.



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MCL

05-20-2008 11:07:03




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
Where you at in Indiana? All I can find is $6.00 and up. I live near Frankfort. I have a neighbor "giving" me about 9 or 10 acres of grass to bale. I figure going through the trouble and expense of doing it myself is a sure way to make prices come down.



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Joe in IN

05-20-2008 13:58:56




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to MCL, 05-20-2008 11:07:03  
West Lafayette



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Dick L

05-20-2008 10:36:26




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
At the Hillsdale Michiagn weekly Saturday auction last week first cutting hay sold from 2.60 to 5.60 Second cutting sold from 2.20 to 6.30 Third and fourth cutting sold from 5.30 to 6.70. No real shortage in this area last year. First was a little short on yield.



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Joe in IN

05-20-2008 10:53:40




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Dick L, 05-20-2008 10:36:26  
With all the rain we have had I am not concerned with shortage...

My main thought on pricing was due to input costs and lost opportunity cost with Corn/soybeans/wheat. $3 hay doesn't cut it when I can get 175 bushels of corn at $5.50....



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M Nut

05-20-2008 08:19:26




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
Here in MN prices were as high as $6.00 this past winter, but now I am seeing prices as low as $2.50 for grass hay. I contracted to buy 300 60-70lb squares of grass/timithy/clover mix loaded on my wagons for $3.00 a bale.



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kyhayman

05-20-2008 07:22:07




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 Re: Sm Sq Alf/Grass Hay Price in Midwest?? in reply to Joe in IN, 05-20-2008 07:15:59  
Everyone around here appears to be charging at least 4.00 to do custom work with small squares dropped on the ground. I'd think at least 6.00



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