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Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow

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Jeff - VA

05-16-2008 08:56:33




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Hello, new to the site and the forum. Just received this 12' JD Disk Harrow. Need help identifying the model. Dealership thought it could be an RW (No numbers after or before?)??? Also need a hydrolic unit for it (Farmer says 20" double action), but can't order that from the dealership until I can identify the model. Also need tires for it. I took the rims off of the disk and took the tires off as well. They were used car tires. I believe I will need implement tires. Any help will be appreciated. Please see attached photo. More photos available upon request if needed. Thanks, Jeff

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Rick Kaufmann

05-18-2008 09:28:55




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
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Here is a picture of a RW. Not sure how the RWA's differ, but my RW has white iron greaseable bearings, not sealed bearings. I run a 3 x 8 double action cylinder with my disk. I like the double action since you can raise the wheels above the disk to add the weight of the wheel assemblies to gain a little more weight when cutting at maximum depth. I believe with a single acting cylinder the wheels would just ride on the ground when the disc is fully lowered. The best price for a 3 x 8 cylinder I found was Northern Tools. You will also need hoses and fittings for the cylinder. If you stay away from the dealer you should be able to get the cylinder, hoses, and fittings for around $150.00 �. Used car or truck tires were commonly used for these disks. You don't need to buy implement tires. Tire sizes for an RW are 5.90 x 15, 6.40 x 15, 6.70 x 15, 7.10 x 15, or 7.60 x 15, or equivalent modern tire sizes. I hope this helps. Rick

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BobHnwOh

05-17-2008 05:22:10




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
RWA,any hydraulic cyl.the correct length will work.



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IaRalph

05-16-2008 19:59:04




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
I think you have a RWA. the RW had dirt pans. If you look on the angle iron that is just above the outside disc blade, it should tell the model and the width of the disc.



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LenND

05-16-2008 18:19:39




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
I have a 14" AW and it is different than yours.
The AW;s came with a 14" wheel and a regular car tire with a tube. At least mine did and I just replaced the original tires two years ago. The JD dealer said mine was built after 1962 cause it had sealed bearings in it.



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buickanddeere

05-16-2008 15:25:28




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
I went through some of the same not knowing what model my integral disk was. Confusing part was it had always been shedded. It looked so new I kept looking too new possible models.
Look around and find some casting numbers such as what's on a spool, shaft, bearing body, washer, bumper etc.
Then go to the parts section of the Deere site and find out where that part number is used. Eventually you will narrow the models down.
In order to replace a broken bumper on what turned out to be an obsolete model E disk. It turns out the AW etc series use the same 1-1/8" shaft. The bumper is still available for those and it perfectly fit my model E.

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KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS
1 B10482 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 174.750 MM (1-1/8" X 46-1/4") 9' FRONT B12170 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 403.350 MM (1-1/8" X 55-1/4") 11' FRONT A10862 GANG BOLT 1 12' FRONT B12172 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 835.150 MM (1-1/8" X 72-1/4") 13' FRONT B12173 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 2 046.275 MM (1-1/8" X 80-9/16") 14' FRONT B10483 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 355.725 MM (1-1/8" X 53-3/8") 9' REAR B10484 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 562.100 MM (1-1/8" X 61-1/2") 11' REAR K1727B GANG BOLT 1 -1979 (SUB B10712) 12' REAR B10712 GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 720.850 MM (1-1/8" X 67-3/4") K1736B GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 1 905 MM (1-1/8" X 75") 12' REAR
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS K1726B GANG BOLT 1 28.575 X 2 085.975 MM (1-1/8" X 82-1/8") 14' REAR
2 B11650 BUMPER 1 FRONT GANG B15561 WASHER 1 REAR GANG
3 B27492 DISK 1 355.600 X 3 MM (14" X 0.118"), NO. 1P EDGE, REAR GANG (FOR FURROW FILLER) B31313 DISK 1 (A) 457.200 X 3 MM (18" X 0.118"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1684B) FRONT GANG B31313 DISK 1 (B) 457.200 X 3 MM (18" X 0.118"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1684B) REAR GANG B31315 DISK 1 (A) 457.200 X 3.500 MM (18" X 0.138"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1658B) FRONT GANG B31315 DISK 1 (B) 457.200 X 3.500 MM (18" X 0.138"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1658B) REAR GANG B31342 DISK 1 (A) 457.200 X 3.500 MM (18" X 0.138"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR K1670B) FRONT GANG B31342 DISK 1 (B) 457.200 X 3.500 MM (18" X 0.138"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR K1670B) REAR GANG
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS B31314 DISK 1 (A) 508 X 3.500 MM (20" X 0.138"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1685B) FRONT GANG B31314 DISK 1 (B) 508 X 3.500 MM (20" X 0.138"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1685B) REAR GANG B31316 DISK 1 (A) 508 X 4 MM (20" X 0.157"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1659B) FRONT GANG B31316 DISK 1 (B) 508 X 4 MM (20" X 0.157"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR K1659B) REAR GANG
3 B31318 DISK 1 (A) 511.810 X 4.500 MM (20.150" X 0.177"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR B13493) FRONT GANG B31318 DISK 1 (B) 511.810 X 4.500 MM (20.150" X 0.177"), NO. 1P EDGE, (SUB FOR B13493) REAR GANG B31317 DISK 1 (A) 508 X 3.500 MM (20" X 0.138"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR K1671B) FRONT GANG B31317 DISK 1 (B) 508 X 3.500 MM (20" X 0.138"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR K1671B) REAR GANG B31319 DISK 1 (A) 511.810 X 4.500 MM (20.150" X 0.177"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR B13491) FRONT GANG B31319 DISK 1 (B) 511.810 X 4.500 MM (20.150" X 0.177"), NO. 1N EDGE, (SUB FOR B13491) REAR GANG
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS
4 B12130 SPOOL 1 (C) FRONT GANG B12334 SPOOL 1 (D) REAR GANG
5 KK3745B WASHER 1
6 K1498B STRAP 1
7 14H897 NUT 1 1-1/8"
8 08H4257 CAP SCREW 1 (E) 1/2" X 6-1/4", FRONT GANG 08H4257 CAP SCREW 3 1/2" X 6-1/4", REAR GANG 12H292 LOCK WASHER 1 (E) 1/2", FRONT GANG 12H292 LOCK WASHER 3 1/2", REAR GANG 14H1040 NUT 1 (E) 1/2", FRONT GANG
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS 14H1040 NUT 3 1/2", REAR GANG
9 19H1815 CAP SCREW 1 (E) 1/2" X 1-1/4", FRONT GANG 19H1815 CAP SCREW 3 1/2" X 1-1/4", REAR GANG 12H292 LOCK WASHER 1 (E) 1/2", FRONT GANG 12H292 LOCK WASHER 3 1/2", REAR GANG
10 KK5472B SPOOL 1 (E) SMALL, FRONT GANG KK5472B SPOOL 3 SMALL, REAR GANG
11 KK5920B HOUSING 1 (E) FRONT GANG KK5920B HOUSING 3 REAR GANG
12 A14629 SEAL 1 (D) (SUB FOR 32185) FRONT GANG
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY YEAR REMARKS A14629 SEAL 6 (SUB FOR 32185) REAR GANG
13 AK3997B BEARING 1 (E) FRONT GANG AK3997B BEARING 3 REAR GANG
14 32184 SNAP RING 1 (E) FRONT GANG 32184 SNAP RING 3 REAR GANG
15 B12129 SPOOL 1 (E) LARGE, FRONT GANG KK5473B SPOOL 3 LARGE, REAR GANG
(A) 9', 6 USED; 11', 7 USED; 12', 8 USED; 13', 9 USED; 14', 10 USED.

(B) 9', 8 USED; 11', 9 USED; 12', 10 USED; 13', 11 USED; 14', 12 USED

(C) 9' AND 11', 3 USED; 12', 4 USED; 13', 5 USED; 14', 6 USED

(D) 9', 4 USED; 11', 5 USED; 12', 6 USED; 13', 7 USED; 14', 8 USED

(E) 9', 2 USED; 11', 12', 13' AND 14', 3 USED

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Gerald J.

05-16-2008 10:31:22




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
Car or truck tires work.

Probably 15", 7.5L-15 or 9.4L-15 would be good implement tires also available as 14" tires. But used truck tires are generally a lot cheaper to own.

I second the hydraulic cylinder. Most implements use a 3x8 or a 3-1/2" x 8" stroke cylinder. Typically near 20" closed length. Standard on the shelf in every farm store.

Gerald J.



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Jeff - VA

05-16-2008 10:44:59




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Gerald J., 05-16-2008 10:31:22  
Thanks for the info Gerald. Do you think that Tractor Supply would have it? Also, can I send you the pictures in order to help my try to id the disk?



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Gerald J.

05-16-2008 15:21:41




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 10:44:59  
Looking at the picture, its not a BW and that's the disk I have.

I've not found much need for a double acting cylinder on implements and have converted planter, plow, disk, and field cultivator to single acting cylinders. Actually I use the same 3x8 cylinder on all but the planter. A 3-1/2 would be better but I broke the one that came on my plow with the disk. A bit of interfernce between the mounting and the end cap of the cylinder.

TSC, Value-built, Farm and Fleet, Shoup, Sloan Express, Fleet and Farm, Bucheit's, Theisen, Orcheln, Farm and Home, Shopper's Supply, Norby's, Northern Tool, and Baum Hydraulics all will have at least one 3x8 cylinder, most will have several pressure ratings as well as 3-1/2 x 8 cylinders. That is to say that if a store has hydraulics, it will have a 3x8 cylinder. That little light weight disk should be fine with a 3" cylinder unless the tractor hydraulics are 1250 psi instead of 2250 psi.

To run a double acting cylinder you need only one hose and you need a filtered vent plug for the other cylinder port.

An 8" stroke cylinder is 20.25" center to center when closed generally.

Gerald J.

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thurlow

05-16-2008 09:32:49




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 08:56:33  
Couldn't see your picture; by 'hydrolic unit', do you mean a cylinder? Most discs from the RW era..... and that size..... .. would probably have used an 8 inch (stroke) cylinder. Unless you NEED the stop provided by an original cylinder, an after-market one can be had for a fraction of the cost. Are the rims 4-bolt?



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Jeff - VA

05-16-2008 10:30:54




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to thurlow, 05-16-2008 09:32:49  
I tried to upload a photo, but I guess it didn't work. I can send them to you if you give me your e-mail address. Yes, I think I mean cylinder. The farmer measured the distance where the cylinder would be used to raise/lower the wheels and he told me that it was 20". He also told me that the cylinder I needed should be double action.

Yes, the rims are 4 bolt.



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Leroy

05-16-2008 16:36:56




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 10:30:54  
Om most machinery the decision on single action or double action cylinder will be based on the tractor as some are only set up for a single action while others are only double action. Some machinery will require a double action to be used as a single action with a tractor with only single action hydrolics as the cylinder will have to pull together with the hose fastened to the oposite end of a normal single action cylinder.

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thurlow

05-16-2008 10:58:58




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 10:30:54  
There are tutorials in the archives on how to upload photos; generally..... ..... you must use a photo hosting site; can't upload directly from your documents/pictures; many of us use photobucket, which is free and works great; after getting your photos on there (or wherever); just paste the HTML code (of the picture you want to post) into the body of your message.

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Jeff - VA

05-16-2008 11:20:53




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to thurlow, 05-16-2008 10:58:58  
I'm using my work e-mail account, and our firewall won't allow me to use photobucket. I tried just uploading the image from my documents. That's probably why it didn't work. If you want, I can send you the pictures direct. Thanks, Jeff



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Jeff - VA

05-16-2008 12:43:42




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 11:20:53  
I was actually able to upload a photo on the Implement Photos Gallery. You can go there and see it. Jeff



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thurlow

05-16-2008 13:45:05




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 Re: Need help identifying this JD Disk Harrow in reply to Jeff - VA, 05-16-2008 12:43:42  
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It's from that era, but whether it's an AW, RW or somethng else, I can't tell.



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