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Little twine piece left on bales?

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blillie90

05-15-2008 18:21:04




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My supplier of hay and my baler leaves little pieces of twine all over. Is there any way to stop this?




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blillie90

05-16-2008 07:21:23




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
Talked to my Dad about his IH 435. He said it definitely did not do that. Its knots have two loops and one long tail and a short tail. The twine knife only cuts the one piece of twine and then the holder releases the twine. This is where the long tails on the knot comes from.



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Ken Macfarlane

05-16-2008 04:39:02




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
Massey balers use a different knotter and don't leave a tail. The NH and JD balers all leave the tail.



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johns48jdb

05-16-2008 03:38:19




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
sorry to disagree with you guys. this is not a natural thing. you knotters aren't set right. get a hold of a service manual for your baler and it will explain how to make these stop. i ran a 440 baler, a 47 and a jd 27 i think and none of them did that. there is s section that tells you how to make that stop under trouble shooting.



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garytomaszewski

05-16-2008 07:14:41




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to johns48jdb, 05-16-2008 03:38:19  
John, sorry to disagree with you but they sure do. I have never worked with an IH baler, but NH, JD, Case, AC, all cut the twine 2" behind the part that holds the twine to catch the knotter. This part catches and holds the twine until the next cycle,when it revolves the 2" piece falls out. Poor explaination but timed enough to know that's the way it is.



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johns48jdb

05-16-2008 17:53:59




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to garytomaszewski, 05-16-2008 07:14:41  
i stand corrected, but that makes no sense to me. i did find in my ih booklet no.gss-1424-k that the spring that holds the end of the twine until the bill hook makes it revolution, pg 22 lower left, that if it is set to tight it will cause lose fibers to pile up on the knotters assembly.



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kyhayman

05-15-2008 19:43:05




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
Part of it, though I dont know how the twine would get from laying on the bale to the insides of the horse. Just got to brush it off. With that said though, switch to sisal. No worries about ingestion, and environmentally friendly too.



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blillie90

05-15-2008 18:41:56




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
Any body have this happen with a international baler? I don't ever remember this growing up using a IH 435. The knots are tied totally different though.



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blillie90

05-15-2008 18:37:22




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
My wife and my hay customers complains that the horses might eat it and cause problems. I am thinking of using sisal twine so at least it might digest.



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onefarmer

05-15-2008 18:35:37




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
That little 2-4" piece is the loop that is cut off every time a bale is tied off. No way to stop it.

If you don't want little plastic pieces of twine you could use sisal twine and be biodegradable.



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garytomaszewski

05-15-2008 18:34:57




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
Not if you know how a knotter works. Those are the pieces that are in the holder, the knotter ties and cuts behind this 2" long piece that is in the holder when knotter advances cut off tail falls out. Maybe you have to be there,sorry I can't explain any better.



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Randy-IA

05-15-2008 18:30:40




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 Re: Little twine piece left on bales? in reply to blillie90, 05-15-2008 18:21:04  
No



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