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Randy-IA

05-03-2008 20:11:48




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Hi All , It's about time for me to start getting the hay equipment in order in case I can get a cutting sometime this year after all the cold weather and flooding is over . I sharpened the knives two years ago ( I only bale 6 acres ) but haven't been satisfied with the results . I think I may not have gotten them sharp enough . I didn't want to put to fine an edge on them thinking that they'd roll to soon . So I left them with about a .010 nose . Question is - how sharp should they be ? Should they cut paper or be as sharp as an ax ?

The other problem is I probably didn't get them shimmed close enough together due to the sloppiness of the plunger . I'm going to work on that too . I have had some new guides made that I have to install . I had the plunger out and loosened up the adjusters and made some new shims for it but when I get it adjusted snug at the front of the chamber it's to loose towards the rear . So I think the new guides should help that . Even with these minor problems it makes good clean bales but every so often it has two bales come out still attached to each other . Rarely misses a tie . It's fairly quiet too as long as I don't bend the strippers or the tines . Thanks for any input on fine tuning one of these old timers . I'm getting it close but not close enough for my liking . ...Randy

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Steve in Idaho

05-09-2008 19:42:35




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 Re: 14T knives in reply to Randy-IA, 05-03-2008 20:11:48  
Randy, wheather it be right or wrong when I sharpen my knives I put a sharp, even, straight edge on them. Don't put to much bevel on then. Excessive bevel will make for a finer cutting edge, but will not be nearly as resiliant and in fact may roll over. The best tool that I have found to sharpen baler knives is a 4"-5" angle head grinder with a rubber backed sanding pad of about 50 grit. They cut well and you can see exactally what you are doin as you are grinding the knife. It is important to keep your edges straight and with an even bevel the length of the knife. Anyway this is how I do it and I have good luck. Steve

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Gary,kansas

05-03-2008 21:31:51




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 Re: 14T knives in reply to Randy-IA, 05-03-2008 20:11:48  
If that plunger is sloppy, It's going to cause you problems, I would start there. However I would never argue with success of someone like Ernie.



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ErnieDD

05-03-2008 20:35:35




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 Re: 14T knives in reply to Randy-IA, 05-03-2008 20:11:48  
We put over 100K bales through a 14T, never adjusted the plunger or sharpened a knife. Not saying it was right, but thats the way it was.

Two bales hooked together I would think would be the result of too big a windrow or going too fast. The hay would spring back as the needles came up. Remember you are not dealing with a high capacity machine.



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