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Round Baler remotes...

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Dubv1980

04-17-2008 18:44:18




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Hello everyone-
Just a question out of curiosity. Is there any Round baler that does not require at least 2 hydraulic remotes? I do custom baling with square bales right now, and I'm wondering if any of the older round balers had less of a requirement on hydraulics..since my M only has one remote.

Chris




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Texasmark

04-21-2008 06:38:56




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
I have a JD 530 which is about 25 years old and rolls a 5x6 roll. Tie arm is operated by an onboard pump which is driven off the pto. Only hyd you need is to lift the gate when the roll is finished.

Mark



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495man

04-18-2008 17:36:46




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
Most round balers should have had option for either single (electric tie) or dual remotes (hydraulic tie) Some round balers don't require ANY remotes (newer automatic Hesston's with on board pump and full electro/hydraulic control box)
A brand new MF 1734 (same as CIH 8420) can still be bought with single remote (tail gate) and ROPE activated tie...

To me the main disadvantage of dual remotes required is if your tractor doesn't have them...other wise (at least to me) An electric system is one additional thing to worry about.

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James Howell

04-18-2008 09:21:46




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
I have a Krone 125 and Krone 260.

Both have only one hydraulic hose.

Hydraulics to raise and lower tailgate.

Hydraulics to raise and lower pickup.



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Joe(TX)

04-18-2008 08:55:38




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
Do you mean 2 remotes or two outlets which is one double acting remote?
Most balers need at least double acting remote in order to close and latch the gate. Two if it has hydraulic tie.



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Lee in Iowa

04-17-2008 19:32:55




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
I don't know how you could have up and down pressure with only one hose, to have up and down pressure you have to have a hose on each end of the cylinder. Also it would not work very good to round bale with an M without live power. Lee



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dwrk

04-17-2008 18:52:12




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
Most round balers only need one remote, new or old. We use a Gehl 2480, 4 years old, the only hydraulics is for opening and closing the gate.



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kmcampbe

04-17-2008 18:50:32




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 18:44:18  
anything with an electric tie would fit the bill, they'd onyl require one set of remotes. A Vermeer's are the berries... Just make sure you have enough HP



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Dubv1980

04-17-2008 19:12:29




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to kmcampbe, 04-17-2008 18:50:32  
I have one remote..period...one hydraulic hose. I do have the two way (up and down pressure) but its just one hose.

Chris



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RickB

04-18-2008 02:29:58




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 19:12:29  
If you have only one hose, you don't have down pressure, you have gravity. A Farmall M with a belly pump won't make enough pressure to open the gate of any round baler I know of even if you plumb in a double acting valve. I f you had a live hydraulic pump on the M, that would be different, but then you would most likely have a double acting remote.



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BCnT

04-17-2008 20:06:22




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to Dubv1980, 04-17-2008 19:12:29  
i had the same dilemma awhile back...heres what was suggested to me...plumb it downline of your existing controls and run your hoses and fittings off new selector valve.
i hope this site will let me post a link...if not copy and paste this.
www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007041415372949&item=9-4128&catname=hydraulic

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Bob Semrau

04-18-2008 20:32:42




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 Re: Round Baler remotes... in reply to BCnT, 04-17-2008 20:06:22  
I used to have a Deere 510 with hydraulic tie that had a divider valve that you pulled a rope to toggle which remote was active - worked pretty well (hydraulically, that is).



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