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IH McCormick 46 square baler

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Mark Warden

04-14-2008 10:21:35

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What is everyones opinion on a IH McCormick 46 baler. I can buy one for $1000.00 +- that baled hay last season. I will only be baleing 200 bales a year for my own use and can't pay too much for one. Are these good balers and something that can be repaired if it breaks?

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Mark Warden

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Jason M

05-12-2008 11:45:05

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

I was reading the comments on the #46 baler. Around 20 years ago, my father baled with one. We used to bale 4,000 bales per year and he baled with it for over 10 years, we never had any problems with it. I recently bought one because I am just starting out and I can"t afford a jd. The auger is beat up on mine and I am going to have to work on that, but I just baled 150 bales with it two days ago and it only missed 3 bales. Not bad for a 50 year old baler. The bales it missed were due to pulling it too fast in thick hay. If you pull it slow it will bale fine. I hate a new holland baler because they will not make a uniform bale, and I grew up with that ih baler. The #46"s around here are selling for 1500 dollars.

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Carlos Pozzi

06-17-2008 18:46:17

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Jason M, 05-12-2008 11:45:05

I bought one of these and I can"t get the knotting mechanism to work. I am new to this so if anyone can tell me how do get the twine to the knotter. Is there a trick to this?

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Carlos Pozzi

06-17-2008 18:44:09

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Jason M, 05-12-2008 11:45:05

I bought one of these and I can't get the knotting mechanism to work. I am new to this so if anyone can tell me how do get the twine to the knotter. Is there a trick to this?

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evilboweviel

04-16-2008 18:03:52

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

I will go against the flow here. I loaded well over 100,000 bales from a IH 46 twine baler. When it missed a knot it was due to changing twine balls. I never could get it tied right for it. My uncle Carl who owned the baler put over 600,000 bales thru it and could tie the twine so it worked. You had to keep the chaff away from the knotters, run the baler at rated speed per manual. keep the twine cutters sharp and adjusted. sharpen the knives on the plunger, keep good springs in the hay dogs.
NOW keep in mind this baler was never wet until the week of his sale back in the 90's. extremly good care was taken of it and it baled small windrows to big windrows with no problem.
also I believe it was made around 1958 so you would be using a 50 year old piece of equipment. at that it would work better than a 10 year old if good care taken of it and the 10 year old was abused
Ron

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jhilyer

04-16-2008 17:46:39

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

No no no! Just say "no" to the McCormick 46. I love all things "red", except for this baler.
Get this story: I bought one as my first baler about 15 years ago. My Dad went to look at it with me. He had one that he sold when he got his round baler. I gave $250 for it. My Dad said nothing.
Halfway through the season it's breaking every 6th bale. I'm adjusting, reading the manual, etc...nothing's working. I'm talking about with Dad one day, and he says "Yeah, mine never worked right either." I say, "But...wha...Why didn't you tell me!" To which he replied: "'Cause you needed a baler, and this one was cheap!" I got a NH a year later and the 46 just got cut up for scrap last month!

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Farmallb

04-15-2008 18:30:49

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

Mark Warden said: (quoted from post at 10:21:35 04/14/08) What is everyones opinion on a IH McCormick 46 baler. I can buy one for $1000.00 +- that baled hay last season. I will only be baleing 200 bales a year for my own use and can't pay too much for one. Are these good balers and something that can be repaired if it breaks?

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Mark Warden

Can anybody tell me when the 46 IHC was built. My grandpa had a 46, I think with a B type engine on it

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johns48jdb

04-14-2008 15:50:48

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

alot of parts from the 46, 47, 420, 430 and 440 balers are the same if you end up with one. i wouldn't buy another ih baler for 5.00. i had a new 440 and the string on the inside of the bale was so close to the edge you had to be real careful about how you picked it up. here in n al a good jd 24t is a good baler. neighbor has one and he never looks after anything he has and it bales good every year. i've borrowed it and went over every thing in it and tightened up all the chains and cleaned it up good and it ran perfect for 4-500 bales.

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Mark Warden

04-15-2008 10:16:32

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to johns48jdb, 04-14-2008 15:50:48

johns48jdb,
Thanks for the info. This is a great place to get this kind of help.

Thanks Again
Mark

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ArleninOr

04-14-2008 15:37:47

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

Mark,I would try to get a baler that was at least made in the 70's if it was me. I sell a lot of parts for IH and Nh balers and some of the parts are NLA

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Mark Warden

04-15-2008 10:18:54

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to ArleninOr, 04-14-2008 15:37:47

ArleninOr
Thanks for the info. I have been talked into it. Alot of great help on this site. I will keep looking!!

Thanks
Mark

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ArleninOr

04-14-2008 15:36:49

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

Mark,I would try to get a baler that was at least made in the 70's if it was me. I sell a lot of parts for IH and Nh balers and some of the parts are NLA

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Charlie M

04-14-2008 14:36:52

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

I'd sell my 46 in a heart beat if someone offered me $1000. They're a pretty good baler if they are maintained properly and I do like mine but I wouldn't pay that kind of money and I like anything that says IH on it.

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Mark Warden

04-14-2008 15:25:51

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Charlie M, 04-14-2008 14:36:52

Thanks Charlie M. I really had no idea what a baler like this would go for. I'll keep looking!

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Mark

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paul

04-14-2008 10:57:10

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 10:21:35

'Here' I could buy a NH baler 69-271 models for about %500, which has more parts available, possibly a little better knotter technology, and so on.

Don't know pricing conditions where you are.

Hear ok things about a 46, just not very many at all around 'here' so can't give an opinion, other than I see them sell for $250 or so at farm auctions.

--->Paul

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Mark Warden

04-14-2008 12:33:51

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to paul, 04-14-2008 10:57:10

Thanks for the info Paul. Small square balers in any kind of condition around here are high (Oklahoma) You just don't see alot of them for sale and the ones you do are either worn out or $2500.00 to $4000.00. Baleing no more than 200 bales a year I could not pay for one of them. This #46 looks to be well taken care of and not setting outside all of it's life (What year would it be?)and it's twine tie (I perfer). I just have not been around one of them. What would you recommend for brand and model# for a cheap baler that could be maintained?

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Mark

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KEH

04-14-2008 14:07:34

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 12:33:51

46's are OLD, like back in the 50's. I have one I was going to fix up with original manual and all, but have given up on idea due to lack of time and condition of baler. Price sounds way to high. like to other post said, a NH baler would be better because of a better knotter design and probably more dealers. Since round balers came in there has been a shortage of used square balers due to fewer new sales of square balers.

KEH

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Mark Warden

04-14-2008 14:16:58

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to KEH, 04-14-2008 14:07:34

KEH,
Thanks for the info, What model NH would you recommend? Is one better than the next?

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Mark

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KEH

04-14-2008 14:39:26

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 14:16:58

Well, I used a 67(same as a 68 but the 68 has a longer tongue and pto shaft which lets you move away from the windrow with the tractor). It gave good service but would make the misshapen or so called banana bales. There are adjustments with the feed forks but the best way I found to avoid them was to rake large windrows so a lot of hay was going through the baler. The 271 has a good reputation. The 273 must be good because they were made a long time and a lot of them are availiable used. I've heard locally that the 310 is not too good, but some on here like them. If your budget calls for an older baler, the 273 is probably the latest model you will want. Of course, condition is everything in a square baler. If you look at a 67 or 68, check the metal under the knotters and the hay dog springs since those balers do not have a cover over the knotters and rain on the loose hay will cause rust quickly. Later models have a cover.

KEH

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Mark Warden

04-14-2008 14:49:09

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to KEH, 04-14-2008 14:39:26

Thanks again for the info!!! I will keep my eyes open for the models you listed.

Thanks Again
Mark

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paul

04-14-2008 19:40:10

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to Mark Warden, 04-14-2008 14:49:09

I'd say the NH 69 through 271 are all about the same baler, if you find one in good condition. Good solid workable baler with good design. Little tweaks up as the number gets bigger, but all same basic design.

The 273 is a little bigger capacity, good baler, probably not needed for your operation unless you find one for a good deal - wonderful baler.

JD had a good 14 & 24T models for older good machines. These are the equal of the older NH balers.

I think the 46 you found does have an ok reputation; I'm just not familiar with them, and parts & so will be a little more difficult. The price floors me, just a regional thing, so it is hard for me to get past that. :)

--->Paul

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Mark Warden

04-15-2008 10:13:46

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Re: IH McCormick 46 square baler in reply to paul, 04-14-2008 19:40:10

Paul,
Thanks for the info.I will keep my eyes open for the ones you have in your reply. Used square balers are have to come by around here, (Oklahoma).

Thanks
Mark

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