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3 point hitch question

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jimmydfi

04-13-2008 07:22:13




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I have an 856 international. I believe it is a category 2 hitch. I have not measured it yet. I want to buy a rotary tiller for it that is a category 1. Will this work or what would I need to do? Thanks




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paul

04-13-2008 18:45:38




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to jimmydfi, 04-13-2008 07:22:13  
Many tractors allow different width settings on the tractor 3pt, allowing you the - is it 26 inch - width of a cat 1? All you need then are the little pipe sleeves to bush out the cat 1 pins to fill in the cat 2 holes on your tractor 3pt. Anyhow, look at how your tractor lower arms are 'held' at their width - chains, rub blocks, anti-sway bars? You can often change something or reposition or get different length of something to make it fit the cat1 width.

You also will likely have a pto shaft that is too short, as often the cat 2 arms are farther away from the pto than cat1 would be.

As well, you have way much power for a cat1 tiller. Could be hard on it.

And, the tractor is very wide for the likely width of the tiller. Going to leave tracks in the tilled ground from a heavy tractor.

Just all the thoughts & possibilities I can come up with, more than you asked about. :)

--->Paul

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marshall grn

04-13-2008 12:24:16




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to jimmydfi, 04-13-2008 07:22:13  
if you want to turn cat 1 from cat 2 simply turn pins inward, facing each other instead of away from each other, this has worked for me in my cases , might work for you in yours



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Gerald J.

04-13-2008 17:16:30




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to marshall grn, 04-13-2008 12:24:16  
You got it backwards. He has a category 2 tractor and a category 1 implement. Turning the pins in on the implement makes them ever more too narrow. Though they do make category 2 pins with category one threads but those don't solve the width issue when it is an issue.

Gerald J.



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Jim in Ma.

04-13-2008 12:08:59




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to jimmydfi, 04-13-2008 07:22:13  
I have used the sleeves on some things but if for something heavy you will be better to change the pins to cat.2 - most tractor supply type stores have them.



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Gerald J.

04-13-2008 11:07:01




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to jimmydfi, 04-13-2008 07:22:13  
Besides the sleeves for the category 1 pins, the draft arms need to be closer together than for category 2. In JD tractors that means changing the positions of the sway blocks. I don't know about your IH.

Gerald J.



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RayP(MI)

04-13-2008 07:37:25




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 Re: 3 point hitch question in reply to jimmydfi, 04-13-2008 07:22:13  
There are adapters available to convert a cat 1 to cat 2 - Basically sleeves that slide over the pins. No big problem. Probably available at most tractor parts stores, TSC, etc.



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