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Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit

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Greenfield

04-11-2008 06:00:03




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Living among the farms of east-central Indiana, Charlie Rentschler, ag machinery analyst for Wall Street Access, brings a unique perspective to his trade as an industry pundit. In his March 10 report to investors ("Oink, Moo, Cluck, Baa � Or What We"re Hearing on the Farm"), Rentschler reports, "While we regard U.S. agriculture"s outlook as very bright long term, we can envision some real turbulence in the next year or so � which may create investment opportunities." Rentschler says he"s never seen "such optimism among our farm neighbors." Despite the cost of everything sky-rocketing, "like the prices of their crops, they report their absolute margins are better � or they feel they"re better � and they"re spending money on equipment."

Corn Ethanol Producing Mixed Results. Rentschler, who has let it be known far and wide that he"s no fan of using corn for ethanol, says he sees this as the major underlying cause for the worldwide boom in agriculture, but also the major factor in some very erratic swings in demand and prices, not just for maize, but other crops as well.

"As this hair-brained, government-sponsored industry abruptly gets built out and starts to contract, these turbulent times could create opportunities for investors.

"However, we remain very bullish long-term for world-wide farming as the industry transitions from a supply-driven to a demand-driven model, courtesy of the new meat diets of several hundred million emerging middle-class Asians, as well as the cheap U.S. dollar which helps lower their cost," he says.

Through-the-Roof Expenses. The farm analyst says that he"s been checking various local sources and to a person they are telling him about dramatic cost increases.

For example, one near-by farm is renting for $250/acre vs. $150/acre last year. A local fertilizer co-op reported the retail price of anhydrous ammonia (nitrogen) is $740/ton, compared with $560/ton last year, while 0-0-60 fertilizer (potash) has climbed to $500/ton vs. $260/ton last winter.

But, while costs have rapidly escalated, so, too, have prices farmers get, with corn trading for over $5/bushel, soybeans, $15, and wheat $11, 2-4 times as much as a couple of years ago.

Equipment Deliveries. The local Deere and Case-New Holland dealers are sold out of large tractors and combines � delivery of new machines is sometime in 2009. "Best Equipment, a used machinery dealer in nearby Greensburg Ind., told us that they can sell a 5-year old row-crop tractor or combine harvester for "significantly more" than a year ago.

The local Hemisphere GPS "Outback" representative explained, "sales of automatic-steering units have exploded." The reason, he said, was "farmers have more money."

Rentschler says that there"s no doubt that area farmers are "growing wealthier. Plus, they need to renew equipment that wasn"t replaced in the long recession that lasted from 1999 to 2006," have put them in the mood to spend.

Fly in the Ointment. The way Rentschler sees it, the fly in the ointment is corn ethanol. "An unnatural phenomenon, it is based on governmental subsidy � principally, a $0.51/gallon credit to the blender that mixes the stuff with gasoline to get, say E10, or 10% "white-lightning" � but has grown to be such a monster customer for the American farmer that it will consume some 30% of this year"s corn crop. This is approximately 4 billion bushels of the expected 13 billion raised. Sharply higher prices for corn, as is well understood, have caused farmers to shift out of other crops � primarily, wheat and soybeans � collaterally raising their prices by significant amounts, too."

The problem now is that soybeans have become so attractive relative to corn (exceeding the long-held rule-of-thumb of 2.5:1) that there is likely to be a switch this spring back to beans. We expect land planted to corn this season to slip to 84-85 million acres from last year"s 92 million. A cold, wet spring that many meteorologists are predicting (hello La Nina) could drive corn planting below 84-85 million acres. As a result, some economists are guessing, corn could go to $10 this summer.

While significantly hurting the livestock industry (already sows are being slaughtered at near-record numbers) as well as exports, these never-seen-before prices for corn will devastate the ethanol refiners, certainly the marginal ones which are under- hedged and over-leveraged and located on short-line railroads. As the consolidation of the corn-ethanol producers plays out (and we see this as an enduring, yet significantly consolidated industry), farm-ground planted to corn in the spring of 2009, accordingly, could exceed 93 million acres, forecasted an economist that spoke to a local audience of 150 or so farmers packed into a make-shift auditorium at a nearby grain elevator the other night. We were seated on bales of straw.

He advised this spring doubling up on purchases of Monsanto triple-stack corn at $120 per bag to avoid paying possibly twice this amount in 2009. Clearly, vendors of nitrogen fertilizer (e.g., Terra Industries and CF Industries Holdings) would be big beneficiaries a year from now if this scenario played out. Ditto, for the machinery makers, especially Deere and CNH Global.

America, the Beautiful. We are optimistic about the future of American agriculture because of the emergence of an enormous middle-class in China and India, too, as well as the other Asian nations. With some 1.4 billion citizens, China is transitioning from a country subsisting on starch (rice and wheat, e.g.) to a nation eating protein (chicken, pork and beef), which requires corn. It is noteworthy that China not only has stopped building ethanol plants (did you hear that Washington?) but also appears to have halted exports of corn.

The Communist chieftains would be well advised to focus on raising soybeans, whose demand is insatiable, rather than corn, which is amenable neither to their soil nor to their weather.

When we spent 2 weeks in China last October, it was obvious that to us that these folks are as brain-dead about covering up prime farmland for industrial developments as we are. We visited a 10 x 30 mile industrial park that had gobbled up prime alluvial ground next to the Yangtze River!
To us, it"s just a matter of time when China starts to import corn from the U.S., which, after all, is the world"s corn granary.

It"s called "comparative advantage" (per Paul Samuelson, Economic 101, years back). And, when this happens, it is likely to snowball, especially if the dollar remains low vis-�-vis the Yuan. There is no richer farmland in the world than lies in our Corn Belt, and we need to respect and nurture this ground as a hallowed, national asset!

If we are going to produce Ethanol why not use sugar beats or Sugar Cain? They both yield 1.5-2.5 time the ethanol per the same unit. The politics of destroying the small livestock producer will be devastating. There at over 2 million livestock producers that have gross receipts of $15,000 or less.

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hayray

04-12-2008 04:54:41




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
I agree with the part about the small livestock producer. I am feeding cattle and don't see any relief in sight to this disaster that the goverment has created as another goverment welfare program for cash grain farmers, haven't they got enough programs alreay - good grief? This is just killing my business. And of course you can always say that beef prices will go up but probably not because with consumers belts tightened people won't be able to afford beef priced to mitigate the price increases of inputs. I can't buy fertilizer for my pastures and hay fields at these prices, I'am not making it back on corn, beans and wheat. Good bye small livestock producers all because of goverment welfare. Am I bitter, oh yeah. You cash grain guys enjoy the ride, its over for me.

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paul

04-12-2008 15:03:12




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to hayray, 04-12-2008 04:54:41  
I understand your feelings, I raise a few head of cattle myself.

Were you thanking the govt 5 years ago when they were subsidising grain prices with LDP, making your feed cost far less than it really was? You were the benifit of the LDP programs, not the grain farmer. We were going broke on those programs.

Were you one of those who openly laughed at grain farmers, saying you could buy all the corn you wanted for $2 a bu, why would you ever stoop to growing your own when grain farmers were willing to do it for you? I saw many people saying this.

Were you one of those who didn't care about the grain embargo's in the 60s & 70s, it just meant chep corn for you, no matter if it wrecked grain exports & farming?

What comes around goes around. My turn, your turn. Farming is a series of cycles, always has been, will be in the future. If we want to survive we need to plan for the cycles, not complain about the past.

The current high grain prices are directly related to the housing mess - housing prices got over inflated & people played that ponsy game, buy high, sell higher, take out loans you can't afford, or lend out money to people who couldn't afoford to pay it back, and build more houses, price them higher.... It blew up, everyone gets hurt even if we have nothing to do with that game, and the dollar value has deflated to historic lows in the world. This low dollar value has made our grainsd look cheap to other countries, even if it looks high priced to you.

Ethanol has little to do with it, uses very little corn, and 1/3 of that gets returned as livestock feed. The press & speculators and others like to blame ethanol for high grain/feed prices, but that's not really a factor. Only folks who don't understand the ecconomy would blame ethanol as the big problem of grain prices - it just isn't so.

Again, I understand your concerns, and yes grain prices too high will hurt small livestock, and that will come back to haunt grain growers in a few years.

It is not good to drive away demand for grains.

Your day will come again, and likely very soon. Grain farmers have had it miserable for more years than not, be careful how you put them down.

Work on your future, plan for the cycles. Others are giving you good advice, position yourself for the next upswing.

Farming is a struggle, we don't need to be fighting amongst ourselves.

--->Paul

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Ian Jones, Nanaimo, Canad

04-12-2008 08:17:00




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to hayray, 04-12-2008 04:54:41  
You be thanking ethanol in 2 years. Just keep the calves over and see what you get for long yearlings, just about finished on grass. With grain prices at record levels and going through the roof feedlots can't afford to buy weaned calves and put 6 months of grain through them. They will be looking for your long yearlings that they can put 3 weeks of grain through to put a bit of fat on them. Prices for 1000 pound steers will be comparable to calf prices ($1.40 live weight) within two years. Back to the way nature intended. Cows have a grass mower on the front of them, not a combine.

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hayray

04-12-2008 08:36:57




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Ian Jones, Nanaimo, Canad, 04-12-2008 08:17:00  
3 weeks of grain on them for finish, no way. How much will a T-Bone steak need to be priced at in order to pay for a 1000 lb steer $1.40/lb live weight - $20/lb? Consumers can't afford to pay for those prices that is why beef, pork and poultry won't be able to be priced to offset the corn. But on the other hand, I hope you are right, I need to something to cheer me up.



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tim[in]

04-12-2008 09:56:33




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to hayray, 04-12-2008 08:36:57  
Consider grass finished beef and direct market to the consumer. Big boys cant do it and there will always be people who can afford it and for whom money is no object. If there are people who can afford to put up 4,'YES. FOUR christmas trees in their mcmansions at xmas , These are the kind of people you need to learn to deal with Because they are the kind who hard times barely scratches while the rest of us get dented. Read joel salatins books ,especially on salad bar beef.As long as the big corps dont lobby govt to squash small packers and lockers ,you can find a market. Being denied a market is what is going to kill small ag.

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LenND

04-11-2008 19:23:38




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
I think if we are so short of acres for corn and other grain because of ethanol why is the government paying millioms and millions of dollars to these big corporations (land owner ones) for CRP acres. In this part of the country a lot of CRP land was some of the best farm land in the area so it should raise some of the best corn. My 2 cents. By the way in N.D. big corporations can not own farm land used for farming unless one of the officers of the corp. is actually involved in the farming of the land.

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Gary,kansas

04-11-2008 21:14:10




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to LenND, 04-11-2008 19:23:38  
My question is this, are the large Corps. that own the CRP acres able to own acres in actual production Ag.



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LenND

04-13-2008 09:00:05




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Gary,kansas, 04-11-2008 21:14:10  
Gary, Kans. Have a big correction to make, had one of those senior moments I think. The ONLY corporations that can own land in N.D. have to be FAMILY owned and a member of that corporation has to actively be farming that land. Sorry about that. No other corporations can own land legally in North Dakota. The last election the politicians (mostly Repulicans) tried to get it changed. They said the big money would help the younger farmers get more capital for farming???
It was voted down again.

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LenND

04-12-2008 18:17:25




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Gary,kansas, 04-11-2008 21:14:10  
I don't know for sure but I think so. Unless it has changed any finance outfit (banks, etc) cannot keep repossessed land for a max of three years.



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JMS/.MN

04-11-2008 13:19:07




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
Vast majority of this article is easy to refute with the truth. When did the WSJ, NYTimes, etc., ever know anything about farming. Cargill and ADM have been way bigger players in the ethanol industry for years, farm coops put out a pittance compared to them, but all of a sudden eth gets blamed for everything. Drouths and poor crops around the world, along with China"s growing economy- ie- mouths that can afford meat- have no impact, along with the weak dollar?

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Gary,kansas

04-11-2008 12:49:53




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
Interesting post!!! Having been forced to quit farming in the '80's, this rings so familier, history is about to repeat itself, global economy or not. Ethanol does not hurt the suppliers of farmers, and may not be the answer the green movement wants. Check and see who actually has a significant ownership in those industries supplying agriculture you will find the "OIL INDUSTRIES", they can't loose with $5-$10 corn or $15+ soybeans. It has been true in the past and is true today, if you are lucky enough to benefit from these prices, don't create more debt, pay it off!!!! Look around, you may just find those who have success in Ag. did that in the late 40's and the 70's. Good Luck.

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Cliff Neubauer

04-11-2008 10:21:40




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
The thing is I don't think anybody ever dreamed ethanol would take off the way it did. Also ethanol was pushed as a replacement for MTBE which it worked great as but when gas prices started to go up everybody jumped on the "ethanol will save us" band wagon and made it something it was never intended to be. As a farmer I don't think it's my responsibility to feed the world, I will produce the grain and the market will determine what it gets used for. Much of the world was going hungry when corn could be bought for $1.60 so $6.00 corn isn't the cause of world hunger like the media is making it out to be.

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Gerald J.

04-11-2008 09:05:34




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
Triple stack corn for $120. Balderdash. Think $180 a sack.

Gerald J.



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fergienewbee

04-11-2008 06:20:51




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 Re: Turbulent Times Ahead, Ethanol May be the Culprit in reply to Greenfield, 04-11-2008 06:00:03  
"I'm from the government and here to help you," comes to mind. I don't farm for a living or even for a profitable hobby, but from what I read, ethonol will never produce enough to make any real difference in oil inports. Seems like all it has really done is drive up the price of food, fertilizer, and fuel.

Glad to see farmers finally getting a chance to make money, but I see lots of habitat being converted for crops which may be a bubble waiting to burst. I believe there are many more things more important than money.

Larry

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