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lilnoki

04-08-2008 21:10:41




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I have never used a cyclo planter. Are they better/worse/same as plate or plateless planters? They look heavy, but is this just a lot of sheet metal without excess weight? What is the benefit of this type planter?

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Gerald J.

04-09-2008 14:49:13




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 Re: IH cyclo planters in reply to lilnoki, 04-08-2008 21:10:41  
The benefit of the cyclo planter is the single seed hopper. (at least for each 6 or 8 rows). The cyclo 400 I used was heavy, 6 row, my MF-135 would slide sideways on corners with the planter lifted.

The bad part of the cyclo planter is that is has those long pipes to the planter shoes from the seed drum. The drum counts pretty accurately, works better in the later ones where there's a ridge between the seed bumps, becuase it turns more smoothly then. But the seed clumps up in the pipes and it plants in bunches between the gaps. Every year I used mine, I had to swab out the pipes to remove the cacoons that would have caused instant pipe plugging. It may be that the pipes need to be new regularly to keep the insides smooth and that would help the bunching, but I've been told that the outer rows on the 8 row are the worst for bunching. One year on my 400 a row plugged up with beans. I never did find out why. Just when I got done, that row pipe was plugged from end to end. When I shook it, beans ran out until it emptied.

With the air pressure being critical to performance and with the bunching, there were several years when I'd have made my cyclo 400 the center of a bon fire if there had been enough combustible on it to contribute to the fire.

I'm planting with a 7000 JD planter now and growing better crops. Yes its more bother to fill 4 hoppers, but at least I don't have to haul the seed up 8 or ten feet, I can fill them standing on the ground.

Those who have used them believe the much later cyclo did much better than the 400 but I see them running White or Great Plains these days.

Gerald J.

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RickL

04-09-2008 05:18:20




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 Re: IH cyclo planters in reply to lilnoki, 04-08-2008 21:10:41  
I ran deere 7000 for few years then went to 900 serie cyclo unit. Simply loved that unit. Own neither now thou but if Iwas buying a new or used planter today again it would be a great plains series. funny thing is I assemble Kinze unit on the side also. the cyclo unit is nice unit thou I really liked mine. keep the brush in the drum in line and the drum turning smoothly and you will be fine. I have two sorghum seed drums for cyclo planter if anyone interested

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Hugh MacKay

04-09-2008 03:57:57




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 Re: IH cyclo planters in reply to lilnoki, 04-08-2008 21:10:41  
lilnoki: I guess one would have to call the cyclo a plateless planter and like all other plateless planters they are light years ahead of plate planters. However like all other plateless planters they have to be well maintained, and without the maintainence they do sloppy planting. The maintainence can run into dollars per acre, if you are a small grower.

Having said the above, a very average plate type planter will do better planting than a poorly maintained plateless planter.

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lilnoki

04-09-2008 19:57:19




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 Re: IH cyclo planters in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-09-2008 03:57:57  
Thanks for all the info everyone. My experience has only been with plate planters and I did not know if I wanted to buy something else. Not putting bread on the table with it, will just be planting small acreage with it. Will probably stay with what I know.



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