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Spike in WI

04-04-2008 05:22:39




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I have somewhat of a dilemma with my corn planting setup. I bought a 5400 JD tractor a couple of years ago. I bought a 7200 4R planter last year with a vacuum setup on it. The guy that sold me the planter didn't get me the books on it until after I had planted the corn. I borrowed a neighbors book for settings. Anyhow, after I got the books it says that I shouldn't use a tractor with open center hydraulics on the planter or I may ruin the hydraulics on the tractor. Is there anything I can do short of getting either another tractor or planter or do I need to invest in a PTO hydraulic pump to run the planter. I did use this setup last year this way but the hydraulics did get quite warm. Luckily I only planted about 10 acres.
Thanks for all replies!!

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JoshuaGA

04-04-2008 22:05:53




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to Spike in WI, 04-04-2008 05:22:39  
If your PTO isn't doing anything else, run a direct drive to the fan. Little pricy but beats the heck outta maintaining a hydraulic pump.

JoshuaGA



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Cliff Neubauer

04-04-2008 16:42:36




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to Spike in WI, 04-04-2008 05:22:39  
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The main problem with running a motor like that on an open center system is not being able to control the flow from the tractor and I'm sirprised you had enough flow left to raise the planter with the blower running. With a closed center tractor you can adjust the flow rate to each remote (the Deere blower motors require a maximum of 5 gpm), on our planter we have the blower running on remote valve #3, the markers on #2 and the lift cylinders on #1 and we can adjust the flow so that all three circuits will operate at the same time. We've been running 7200 planters since '01, the first year we ran a pto pump because we were pulling it with an IH 1086 that didn't have enough remote valves or flow to operate the planter.

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johns48jdb

04-04-2008 16:12:32




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to Spike in WI, 04-04-2008 05:22:39  
i had the same problem on an ih 574 trying to run a log spliter. i just plumbed in the return line to the fill port of the hydraulic oil and didn't have any problems after that. check with your jd dealer. he should know.



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Bill in IL

04-04-2008 12:23:30




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to Spike in WI, 04-04-2008 05:22:39  
I have heard of a similar problem on a sprayer tractor running a hydraulic sprayer pump. The return line was run back to the hydraulic fill port (where you top off your hydraulic fluid) instead of the return port. It provides less restriction and doesn't heat the oil.

I am sure some one here can give us all more insight as to the why exactly this works. Now I wish I would have paid more attention to that last summer when I heard about it.

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IaGary

04-04-2008 06:38:37




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to Spike in WI, 04-04-2008 05:22:39  
I thought JD had open center hydraulics.

Maybe I am thinking wrong.

Gary



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Spike in WI

04-04-2008 16:01:34




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 Re: question about vacuum planters in reply to IaGary, 04-04-2008 06:38:37  
They have both open and closed. The older 20, 30, 40 and 50 series had closed center hydraulics. The newer ones in the 50 to 70 hp classes seem to all be open center no matter what make they are. I'm starting to think I should have bought an older model.



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