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bob40

03-30-2008 19:16:14

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hello all, I have a question about a plow, and need some advice. I use my 2n for putting in a big garden every year. I have a howse one bottom plow that does not have coulter blades, depth control wheel, or sod cutters on it that I got with the tractor, as you can imagine, it"s not the best tool for the job. I can order a coulter kit and depth control kit for it for about 200 bucks delivered, Or, I can get rid of the howse plow and get a dearborn 10-8 two bottom plow that is for sale down the road from me for two hundred bucks. this one has the coulters, depth control wheel and moldboard extentions and is in very good condition. can a tired old 2n handle the 10-8 for small plowing jobs? and how much should I ask for the howse plow when selling it. it is ten years old and in very good condition other than surface rust. a new one from tsc. is 400 bucks. thanks bob

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Fred T. Hart Jr.

04-04-2008 20:16:50

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

Bob,

Its a toss up, if you are not happy with the work your 1 bottom is doing, see it you can try the 2 bottom on test. Who knows it could be worst than the one you have now.

I brought home a 2-14" ford plow once, old plow, points were dull and could not drive it in the ground and the ground had been broken up the year before. I believe in addition to the points being dull it was also sprung.

Takes a real old time plow expert to look at a plow and tell if it is sprung (old technical word for bent). However, does not take long to see that the plow will not work properly.

I would want to try it before you buy, as you could be just buying scrap iron.

Good luck,

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johns48jdb

04-01-2008 18:12:06

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

a turning plow is made to run where it is completely level from front to rear and side to side when in the ground at the depth you want to break. make adjustments to the tractor lift until you get this right and you'll be a lot happier with any plow you chose. you'd be surprised as to how much easier it pulls to. i have some hard grounf even for a 54 hp diesel. i like to use a cheap made small version of a chiesel plow that was made by a guy who made several small things for tactros. he used a piece of sqyare tubing that he cut rectangle holes in and used the points off of land scaping blades that have the small points on it. this one has 7 sets of teeth on it and it will really load my tractor down if i socked it in the ground. setting the third arm to make it run deep is ease enough. the shanks are just held in place with a round piece of steel weled to the side of them where they want push up into the slots that he made for them to ride in. if you could make you one of those you could make it to the size you need for your tractor and even then you can always pull out every other shank. using it first on hard ground makes it easier for the turning plow to take the ground. i have ran mine first one way and then cross ways to really bust the ground up good and making the breaking part ease. a good disk will keep you from needing a coulter, unless your in stalks.

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Lumpy

04-01-2008 05:45:55

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

I pull a 2x14 with my '47 2n, 2nd gear, full throttle, 6-7" deep, all day long. Land is about 70% black dirt/ 30% sand. My tires have w.w. fluid in them. I would get the dearborn and forget the other. It will do just fine.

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Leroy

03-31-2008 16:10:58

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

First off Dearborn NEVER made a depth control wheel, I do not know what you are looking at but it is not a depth control wheel. If what you are looking at is a small metal wheel in back of the last bottom then that is called a rolling landside and your single bottom probably just has a long piece of flat steel as a long landside. AS depth control wheel would bolt to the side of the plow as on other makes that did provide a wheel as an option that is where you would have to put one. You should not need a depth control wheel as that tractor is designed not to need one. Other tractor makes were not made with the depth control built in so they provided a wheel for that purpose. You do need to have the rolling coulter tho, no plow will work corectly without that. And 2-14" plows were too much for that tractor when new in most ground. When the dealer brought out my 1944 2N in May of 44 he brought out a 2-14" plow and after 3 rounds he took it back and brought out a 2-12" that I still have. Stick with your one bottom and forget that Dearborn for your tractor. You would have the blade throw away type share on your one bottom but on a Dearborn for that kind of money you would have the blacksmith sharpen type of share that is almost impossible to buy anymore and then you will find that you can't get them sharpened anymore. I have sharpened my own shares but I do have the coal fired forge and anvile to do the job plus the knolage to do it. If that Dearborn had the throwaway share it would be double that price. Buy the coulter and forget about a depth wheel. If your hydrolicks are working you do not need it. And for what you are doing a one bottom will leave a smother job when done to have to level out for your garden.

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Texasmark

03-31-2008 08:54:39

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

I would get a knowledgeable person to set it up for you (the two bottom you are going to buy) or look at some rear view pictures of one actually plowing.

When I first left the city and arrived in the country I tried the moldboard and it was a total mess. I had no idea as to how to set it up and besides, it didn't work my heavy gummy black clay at all.

Mark

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bob40

03-31-2008 08:27:16

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

thanks wildman.

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El Toro

04-01-2008 07:30:59

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-31-2008 08:27:16

You shouldn't need a coulter on your plow if the ground has been plowed every year like a garden.
They're mostly used to slice through sod. I have used this plow for 48 years and never had a coulter on it. I had a heavy covering of barley that was used as a cover crop and it still plowed
it under. Hal

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wildman from mo

03-30-2008 20:36:14

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Re: plow in reply to bob40, 03-30-2008 19:16:14

A tired 2n could pull a 2 bottom plow if you don't go over 7" an the land isn't to tuff. The big thing is if the plow is shiney. When your done clean the dirt off ,put a good coat of grease on it so the next time you use it ,it will be ready to go.Your 1 bottom plow $50.00 buy the 2 bottom clean it up an you should be ok.I'm not a pro but started plowing at age 7 an now 62 & still don't know it all but have rolled a little dirt over.Good luck Wildman

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steveormary

03-31-2008 08:59:23

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Re: plow in reply to wildman from mo, 03-30-2008 20:36:14

bob40

A 2n should handle 2-14's ok. Our TE20 had no problem with 2-14's when it was a new tractor.

steveormary

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