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Bale Basket Wagons

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jhilyer

03-27-2008 07:43:06




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...anyone use these regularly? I'm thinking about upgrading my hay efforts, and the question is thrower with rack wagons vs. regular baler with bale basket wagons.

The advantage seems to be that you could take the bale basket to the barn, "dump" out the bales, and let the kids put them in the barn while the bale basket goes back to the field.

If you've bought them, where did you get them and what was the cost?

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- Jim H.

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Beach Farmer

03-28-2008 06:06:04




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I've got bale throw racks and my brother runs the bale baskets. To each his own. I'm not sure I have a preference. I like the throw racks in the fact that we can stack on them if we have the hay sold to get more on. The bales can stay there for a while stacked too.

My brother likes to unload within a day or two with the baskets otherwise the bales take a set and are hard to work with, especially on an elevator. This is the case with the throw racks too if you leave them on too long.

I do like the fact that you can unload the baskets quickly at the barn and be back baling quickly. Cost has not been too much of an issue but around here we can pick up used 9 x 16 wagons for under $1000. I've got the shed space to get quite a few wagons under cover so that's the way we've gone.

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jhilyer

03-28-2008 05:22:20




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
Thanks, everyone, I'll be watching for them at the local auctions!



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John S-B

03-27-2008 20:33:57




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
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Here's the setup I use, a '45 M, a 214T baler and a EZ trail wagon. I lucked out and found one for sale just a few miles away for $1,800. They are still worth the price new. Virtually no maintenance. I can get about a 100 bales in the wagon, but when it gets close to full I climb up to toss a few bales towards the back so I can get about 20 more in. You can get extentions for more capacity, but I wouldn't do that if you have hills. I say go for it.

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paul

03-27-2008 22:43:16




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to John S-B, 03-27-2008 20:33:57  
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This is my rig. You got a little more hp, but I really love the TA and independent pto - makes baling fun. Lot of folks under estimate that IHC 300.

--->Paul



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John S-B

03-28-2008 07:56:28




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to paul, 03-27-2008 22:43:16  
I'm hoping to get a bigger tractor next year, something around 60hp with a wide front and independant PTO. I'll certainly save on shear pins!



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sammyd

03-27-2008 20:20:47




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I prefer the baskets to throwers.

The bales are usually in better shape.

It's easier to pull them off the pile you dump out and slap them on the elevator than to dig around in a thrower rack to unload.

Don't have bales left out in the field that missed the wagon.



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CbarJ in MO

03-27-2008 19:23:33




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I have been looking for 1 here in central Mo but I havent been able to find any. I think it would be a very useful item



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Beans

03-27-2008 13:21:07




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I gotta stack our 18 foot flatbed wagons and uuload them... Then theres the neighbours kicker wagons... those can be a pain in the rear!



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hayray

03-27-2008 13:00:14




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I bought 3 EZ-Trail bale baskets about 15 years ago from the local New Holland dealer that was dealing with EZ-Trail. They cost $2700 at the time, now they are around $3700. You are right, that is a big advantage of the bale baskets is that you can just tow them up to the barn and pull the lever to unload. One bale basket is equal to about 2 to 3 kicker wagons as far as production is concerned. This question has come up several times so look in the archieves doing a search and you will see several pictures of people using them and describing.

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Bob Semrau

03-27-2008 10:03:45




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I have an EZ-Trail bale basket. The only problem I have had is that sometimes if I take a corner too sharp a bale will get pinched, which means I have to stop and take the pieces out, which is a pain.



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LE Smith W/ Central MI

03-27-2008 09:07:49




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
Seems like the PRO-Quality basket wins this post!!! We bought (3) 17 years ago right off the truck and love them. Since then we have added a Forge King (similar to the Pro-Quality) and an Easy-Trail. They all work great for our hay operation (roughly 10k bales hay and straw per year). We use two NH balers (311 & 570), can bale over 200 bales/ hour and can turn around an average load of 90-95 bales in 15/20 minutes. We run them over hills, side hills and flat fields, use common sense when on the hills however as you can still put one up on two wheels!!!! If you have a baler with the offset hitch like NH"s, you need to buy or build a centering hitch to get the basket lined up with the center of the bale chamber. You also have to keep the guide plate so it is about 1"-2" below the bottom of the bale chamber and I believe the hitch has to be 2"-4" from the rear of the bale chamber. This allow the bales to feed properly from the bale chamber into the basket chute. You will also have to work your baler tension a bit, usually to loosen it up as there is more resistance with a string of bales going up the chute into the basket itself. Yes straw and light material can be a pain at first, but avoid the sharp turns as noted in another post and there will be minimal problems. The only problems encountered over the years has been popped welds (normal wear and tear) and I re-designed the Pro-Q hitchs and had a local metal shop build them as the main pivot bolt and mounting hitch holes were wearing out and getting way to much side ways motion. This way done over five years ago and the hitches are rock solid to this day. From what I see here in MI new prices are around $3k now with used running anyware from $900 - $2800. Good luck and smooth baling!!!

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paul

03-27-2008 08:14:40




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I have one.

Cost: Asking about $2000-2500 these days, at auction I see them sell $500 - 2000. They are rare somewhat, so if you want one & see one, you have to bid. Depends how many other people have the same idea that day..... ;)

They work fine.

Unloading, they make a messier pile than I was hoping, if you open the gate & drive away,t he kids will be carrying 1/2 the bales some distance - not a nice tight pile. I tend to open the gate & pull the bales off, don't need to carry so far. But, if your kids need to burn off some energy, good plan. :)

Mine is a ProQuality too. Older style. Was $1600 at auction with a hitch for a NH baler. Some balers allow the hitch to swing directly centered below the chute, some you need a bit of a hitch bracket to move the pin hole there.

In slippery stuff like straw or dry grass hay you have to make sweeping corners, alfalfa you can turn about as short as normal.

Doesn't like bumpy rides like the road ditch bank with field approaches to go over, up & down so extreme - at least need to plan your windrows a bit.

Overall happy with it.

--->Paul

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Fordfarmer

03-27-2008 07:58:21




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 Re: Bale Basket Wagons in reply to jhilyer, 03-27-2008 07:43:06  
I have 2 Pro Quality baskets. (bought 1 new, second was 1 year old) Think it was about $2100 for the new one, but that was 16 years ago. Wouldn't be without them. Cheaper than 2 kicker wagons + kicker, and fewer broken bales. Pro Quality is out of business now, but E Z Trail makes a similar one, built heavier. Watch auctions, or go to your EZ Trail dealer.



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