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Question on JD 530 Round Baler

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Michael Sheik

03-21-2008 04:55:48




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I tentatively purchased this thing a couple weeks ago and yesterday went out and picked it up and brought back to the shop. Was looking it over as the previous owner said to and if anything was wrong, he would make it right. I missed it the day I first looked at it but noticed yesterday that the bale door is not completely closing on the left side (setting in tractor seat). It is about an inch open with the right side completely closed. Both sides are latching but it is obvious that the latch on left side is tight and right is loose. In the owner's manual, it says to contact dealer for correction. I haven't hooked up to tractor and hyd. so don't know yet if the hyd. will pull the door shut or not. Also, it could be binding somewhere. Going to holler at JD today but has anyone had this problem and done a fix? Any pointers on what to look for that could be binding?

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Texasmark

03-23-2008 08:13:19




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
Lift cylinders are in parallel. Cylinder piston condition (packing sealing capability) has to be identical. If you have one rebuilt cylinder and one worn out cylinder you can"t expect the worn out cylinder to suck it up (close the gate) like the rebuilt one does.

On the lazy side, rebuild the cylinder.

Bet you don"t know how I know this? Grin.

The rest of the story. The kits were like $65. I had a JD 95 combine once and rebuilt all the hydraulics. Encountered every imaginable type of cylinder with each having a diferent method to access the innerds! Been awhile and I forgot what I learned.

So I start in on my 530 and get into the "good" cylinder first. Why? Because it was on the side of the baler next to the work bench. In the process of relearning the process, I unknowingly selected the wrong cylinder...senior moment I guess cause I bought the kits cause of what we are talking about.

So, in the process of repairing the good one, I tore up the new seal upon reinsertion of the ram into the cylinder. So I reluctantly used the seal from the second kit destined for the other side.

Finished that one, took the other apart just to see how bad it was. Well, it was really worn out and should have been the one that I replaced first....had I paid attention to which side of the gate that wasn"t locking I"d have known.....but that was quite awhile before I bought the kits as this was a winter project.

So I wound up taking the worn seal from the better cylinder (which someone had obviously rebuilt before) and installed in the weak cylinder. It passed the operational tests after the repair but has not been field tested. If it doesn"t work I will have to go back and get another $65 kit just to get the plastic seal out of it.

Oh well.

Mark

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Tx Jim

03-23-2008 03:47:08




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Farmer Jack, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
Hay DR JD must be doing something right in hay baling world as one sees a lot more JD rd balers here that Vermeers or Hesstons. Fact is I've only seen one(1) Vermeer rd baler being run by custom farmer here!



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Keith in NW MO

03-21-2008 09:44:57




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
I would say some of the other posts hit the nail on the head. We had a 530 for years, probably on of the best balers ever made. That style of baler was way ahead of its time.



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Hay DR

03-22-2008 08:24:20




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Keith in NW MO, 03-21-2008 09:44:57  
You need to then give the props to Hesston & Vermeer because JD had to pay Hesston & Vermeer after a court ruled JD infringed on Hesston & Vermeer Patents.



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Allan In NE

03-21-2008 06:17:05




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
Neither here nor there and nothing to do with your topic.

But, I've found it's a good idea to "visit" the prospective new find often. About the 3rd or 4th trip ya kinda start to get an idea of what shape this machine is really in.

The "glossy/shiny" part wears off by that time and ya start to see all those "dings" and "owies". Happens every darned time. :>)

Allan



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Tx Jim

03-21-2008 05:51:49




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to mkirsch, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
Michael with gate closed some pressure is applied to belts. Over a period of time this pressure looks for path of least resistance. The couplers could leak a little or the cylinders. Also check to be sure grease zert on gate lock accepts grease.



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IaGary

03-21-2008 05:04:04




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-21-2008 04:55:48  
After setting all winter it could have a slight leak in one cylinder and allow the door to open while setting.

I would hook it to the tractor and cycle the door a couple of times and then see what it does.

When you cycle make sure you go all the way up and all the way down.

Gary



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Michael Sheik

03-21-2008 05:07:20




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to IaGary, 03-21-2008 05:04:04  
I haven't read all the manual yet so why all up and all down?



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JMS/.MN

03-21-2008 15:05:14




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 Re: Question on JD 530 Round Baler in reply to Michael Sheik, 03-21-2008 05:07:20  
If one side has a small leak, cycling the entire stroke, multiple times, will push out any air and fill it with oil. Also check that the door is not sprung, thus not engaging both latches.



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