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reid5365

02-28-2008 10:49:53




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What wood do you use for standards? The upright pieces what size 4x4 or 2x4?? the across pieces?? And then how do you mount them the the beams under the bed??? Lag bolts??




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DiyDave

03-01-2008 16:23:42




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
White oak is good, but sometimes hard to find, and always expensive. I use elm, and sweet gum, they last pretty long if you keep them painted with oil based paint. I use the size that fits into the metal bracket on the back of the wagon!



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johns48jdb

02-29-2008 18:51:22




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
i made one once from just 2 x 4's and 1 x 4's for doing what your talking about. i hinged it in the middle so that you could let it down to make unloading easier after the first few bales layers were thrown off. my trailer was 20 foot long and had 8 foot high side boards on it so you could stack it high without having to tie it down. the side boards didn't go al the way to the front so you had room to load a bale from each side. i did have a rack across the front too and you just field the hay in until it got to highto pitch up. we did it a lot different that most people, but we were set up where we loaded and unloaded a 1000 bales everyday. pulled the trtailer with a ton truck and loaded it down too. i had a rack built out over the cab where you could drive the truck straight into the barn without having to back up to the barn when you couldn't see good. plus i always just had some high school boys for the summer and they did good to put their pants on each morning. so driving straigh into the barl loft opening worked great for me. i used just cheap lumber bolted together with 1/4 inch bolts so when a oiece got caught on a tree limb or wht ever it was ease to replace. use pressure treated lumber if your thinking it will last under some rough conditions. don't use steel for a bed. its to slick to stand up on.

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reid5365

02-29-2008 14:31:10




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
Im talking about the standards guys not the decking. The back part to keep the hay from falling off. Thanks sorry for any confusion.



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RodInNS

02-29-2008 06:10:47




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
I don't use wood, anywhere. Sills are either 10" deep "I" beam or 3"x8" or 10" channel. Cross members are 1-1/4"x3" channel. Decking can be anywhere from 1/8" to 1/4", preferably deck plate... depends on what's available as scrap. The channel I buy new. The "I" beams used.... and the plate used if I can find it. This will last. Wood will NOT.
It's also lighter, stronger and better....

Rod



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Randy-IA

02-28-2008 18:28:18




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
Not sure of your terminoligy . I used custom rough cut white oak for my rack . 4x8x15" stringers , full 2x8x8" deck boards attached about 3/8" apart with ringshank spikes ( ringshank spikes - bad idea ) .



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David from Kansas

02-28-2008 17:30:47




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
I bolted a light weight 3"x3" angle iron along the side of the "beams" which are commonly called "stringers", with the flat side of the angle iron flush with the top of the stringers, then bolted the cross boards (I used 3x10s) to the angle iron. One bed I built I used two 2x12s bolted together as the stringers (14' long) for a hay wagon, but the stringers rotted out rapidly due to moisture from rain and snow getting between them. The next one I will use solid 3x14 used treated brige plank.

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John51

02-28-2008 16:53:37




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
Mine are oak. The cross pieces are 3X3 bolted all the way through the beams. Uprights are the same....3x3 oak.



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reid5365

02-28-2008 15:31:47




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 Re: Wagon Standards in reply to reid5365, 02-28-2008 10:49:53  
anybody??



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