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IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question

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Kerwin

02-15-2008 07:58:25




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I bought some 14" Plow Chief moldboards for my IH 60 trailer plow a while ago, and instead of using a separate shin in front, the shin and moldboard are together.

This kind of surprised me, as the plow currently has a separate shin/moldboard setup. Since the shin area will probably wear more than the rest of the moldboard, my plan is to cut that off (if possible) and use a separate shin at some point (I had bought shins at the same time).

Otherwise, I might sell the one piece moldboards if they would look better on someone's older plow. Thoughts?

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Rootsy

02-28-2008 19:14:49




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Larry NE IL, 02-15-2008 07:58:25  
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Rootsy

02-27-2008 05:22:32




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Videre Farm, 02-15-2008 07:58:25  
It's kind of confusing. The real differentiator between a Plow Chief and Super Chief is the separate point on the Plow Chief.
My #60 manual shows the Plow Chief with a separate point, share, and moldboard.
It shows the Super Chief with one-piece point/share, separate shin, and moldboard.[/quote:c2222e01f3]

I have my 312 & 412 Plow manual right in front of me. It clearly shows the difference between the Plow Chief and the Super Chief bottom. I will scan and post the pages later today.

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mkirsch

02-26-2008 12:17:13




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to DiyDave, 02-15-2008 07:58:25  
It's kind of confusing. The real differentiator between a Plow Chief and Super Chief is the separate point on the Plow Chief.
My #60 manual shows the Plow Chief with a separate point, share, and moldboard.
It shows the Super Chief with one-piece point/share, separate shin, and moldboard.



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Rootsy

02-26-2008 09:23:43




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to FarmerBlair, 02-15-2008 07:58:25  
Hugh,

I believe you have that backward. The Super Chief bottom is a 4 piece assembly on the frog: Shin, Share, Moldboard and land side. The Plow Chief had the shin / moldboard one piece and pre-dates the super chief bottom.

The Super Chief bottom has been the standard for the past 30 - 40 years on IH plows.



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Hugh MacKay

02-15-2008 14:43:51




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Kerwin, 02-15-2008 07:58:25  
Kerwin: Are you sure you bought Plow Chief Moldboards? I'd check the fit before I did any cutting. Back in the days when these were new, Plow Chief always had separate shin, while Super Chief were one piece. If they are Super Chief moldboards they wont bolt up to Plow Chief frogs. Someone may be making one piece moldboards for Plow Chief by now. If they do fit very likely the shin portion will last as long as moldboard itself.

I had 3 No.60 plows and one 510 semi-mount. One 4x16 No.60 was Plow Chief with separate shin. The other 4x16 No.60, 3x16 No.60 and 5x16 No.510 were all Super Chief bottoms with one piece hardened shin. There were holes in the moldboard before the shin created any problem.

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Kerwin

02-16-2008 06:35:26




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-15-2008 14:43:51  
Hugh, thanks for the reply. I will double check the moldboards, but they were sold to me as being for a Plow Chief setup.

I checked my IH 60 book, dated 8-12-63-8A, and it shows both the Super Chief and Plow Chief having separate shins and moldboards. The only "from a distance" difference between the two being the share/point setup on the Plow Chief and the one piece share for the Super Chief.

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Hugh MacKay

02-16-2008 07:27:52




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Kerwin, 02-16-2008 06:35:26  
Kerwin: My No.60 manual is dated 9-12-62, and actually as I look closer both were available with one piece moldboard and shin, and both were available with replacable shin. I expect it depended one different soils, type of crops being plowed down etc. I don't actually know if the frog was any different at point where moldboard and shin bolted on. Moldboard and shin may actually be the same. I do know the frog is different part number for Plow Chief and Super Chief, and we do know the point and share combination will not interchange. If I were you I'd be tempted to use moldboard as is, until shin is worn, then cut it for a replacable shin.

My history with these is I acquired the 4x16 plow chief fall of 63, parked it PDQ when I purchased a farm with a 3x16 and 4x16 with super chief bottoms in 72. Then the dealer talked me into a new 510 5x16 in the fall of 75 for $2,000. damn good buy at that time. The next spring I shipped the 3 trailer plows off to an auction got close to $2,000., plus my dad decided one day to sell my 2 bottom 2x14 No.8 and passed me $75. when I got home. I never really bought parts for the plow chief and super chief at same time. Plus we had a parts man knew everyone's plow and how it was equipped (from memory) in 3 counties. How he could remember all of this was amazing. I've actually heard him argueing with customers telling them what they had. He had most of us quite spoiled. He only ever screwed up once on me, sold me a bunch of right hand thread bolts for super chief shares. Those were designed for left turning moldboards on a roll over plow. I uttered a few choice words until I was back to dealer. If wrong, they will not stay tight.

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toolz

02-15-2008 22:04:54




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-15-2008 14:43:51  
Hugh- You know more about these things than I ever will, but I think ya got this one backwards. The Plow Cheifs were one piece, and the Super Chiefs had the separate shins. I just went out to the shed and looked at my #16, #70, and #550, all with "Super Chief" printed on the back of the moldboards (2 are Super Chief X Series), and they all have seprate shins.



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Hugh MacKay

02-15-2008 22:45:15




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 Re: IH Plow Chief Moldboard with Shin Question in reply to toolz, 02-15-2008 22:04:54  
Toolz: Your right, the old memory aint what it used to be. I just dug out my old No. 60 manual, sure enough, it has both bottoms and as you describe. Thanks for the quick heads up.



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