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Anybody bale river levees??

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farmermatt

01-29-2008 10:09:44




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Im looking at some levee hay contracts and debating how agressive to bid. I could use some more hay, just curious if anyone has experience on these things. Theses are on the missouri river so theyre of substantial size and grades are STEEP of course. The grass is brome. Also, whats hay ground rent worth, expected yeild in your area?? Thanks Matt




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nw_bearcat

01-30-2008 10:11:25




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
My old boss did alot in NWMO at one point. Hard on disc mowers, the ends run w/o oil depending on what slope you're on alot of the time. You might have trouble keeping a hydra swing up on the bank in places, as i recall, not the heavist grass, so it wouldn't pull hard, but might tend to slide down a little. I suppose you could put some multi rib tractor tires on it instead of the floatation tires and help out. The other watch out is the pivot pins on your baler tailgate. I once saw a guy close a 605F on a hill side and it tried to latch with one side inside of the baler. There was enough slack in it that the tailgate was out of position, and it was like you tried to close it on a bale. Sprung the entire thing. I've also not had good luck w/ 1-way wheel rakes on similar slopes.

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kyhayman

01-29-2008 18:44:22




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
What kind of percent slopes are you talking about? I'd be real particular if they are over 20%. As to what it rents for here, something like that would go about 2/3 to the guy doing the work. At 10 rolls per acre and 30.00 a roll that would leave paying no more than 100.00 an acre. Personally, I wouldnt pay that much for that kind of ground. One overturn will definitely make it some high priced hay.

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farmermatt

01-29-2008 17:52:02




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
I should have mentioned what equipment I use for hay. 8730 Ford (150hp fwa) w/ duals, NH 114 14" hydraswing mower. 5x6 baler, gehl 1870 net wrap now but will probably trade up this year. Im talking around 100 acres of levees so not a big contract. They are mowed yearly but the contracts are just up for bid again. Not exaclty unchartered terrain. Thanks to all for your input.
Matt



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Lee in Iowa

01-29-2008 18:33:39




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 17:52:02  
Forgot to say that most of them around here run duals now, but I didn't when I was windrowing. Lee



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johns48jdb

01-29-2008 17:04:36




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
in cutting that hay, would you add alot of weight to the left rear tire to help keep the tractor on the ground on that side. don't think i would be interested unless i had a rops on the tractor and always be where somebody can see me.



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Don-Wi

01-30-2008 00:13:06




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to johns48jdb, 01-29-2008 17:04:36  
That's only good if the tractor is going one way. But unless you cross the river, the tractor is gonna be going both ways so both tires would have to be ballasted. Full fluid, set out as wide as possible.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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johns48jdb

01-30-2008 05:16:06




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to Don-Wi, 01-30-2008 00:13:06  
my reasoning behind it was that goingone way you'd need the weight, going the other way that the weight of the mower would be up hill and help hold the tractor down. i've cut more than my share of hay and not done that much on hill sides, but where i did i always felt comfortable that the weight of the machine when it was up hill from the tractor would help hold it down. might be wrong, but just semed that way to me.

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01-30-2008 23:44:04




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to johns48jdb, 01-30-2008 05:16:06  
That would work for a 3 pt. mounted one, but if it's only hooked to the draw bar, or if it's one of the newer hydra-swings that hoks onto the lower 2 arms and still rides on it's own tires, there isn't much wieght to hold you from going over. The hitch will twist and break before holding the tractor from going over once it's that far.

Besides, even if it does work to mow, you still gotta bale it, and then you'll have the same problem.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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farmermatt

01-30-2008 04:25:26




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to Don-Wi, 01-30-2008 00:13:06  
THe levees are dry on both sides typically. Only in flood situations is there water against it. Water hits these about every 10 years probably. Or just plum runs em over in 93'.



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Lee in Iowa

01-29-2008 13:10:33




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
The guys around here on the tributaries of the Missouri get along pretty good. I think they have to pay so much per bale. Its kind of steep I windrowed quite a bit one year 856 and hydroswing only got really scared once. Lee



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jonjon

01-29-2008 12:58:40




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 Re: Anybody bale river levees?? in reply to farmermatt, 01-29-2008 10:09:44  
Guy I know here in town tried this I think in Nashville or Memphis. Lost his a**. turned over the biggest part of his equipment demolished some rented totaled 6 superior mowers 3 new idea disc mowers and 2 231S Massey ferguson tractors. But I dont know might work for you.



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